Interested to hear everyones thoughts on who they would compare top pick too, or anyone you would like to see in teal and black.
Fowler = Terrell Suggs
Cooper = Reggie Wayne
Gurley = Steven Jackson
Williams = to young JJ Watt hard to compare anyone to what he has done now
Kevin White = Fitzgerald
Melvin Gordon = Darren Mcfadden
Vic Beasley = cliff Avril
etc..... just off the top of my head, i have a hard time putting super stars on there considering these guys haven't played a snap
Why would someone compare a true speedster like White to Fitz? Fitz is a great receiver, but he's never run a sub 4.5 in his life. White ran a 4.35 on the slow combine track.
What cracks me up are all the comparisons to Marshawn Lynch. There's about a half dozen RBs in this draft that all compare to Lynch if you ask the right person.
Williams to JJ... please, get real. Nothing against Leonard, but he's not the next JJ. Maybe he can be the next Suh.
You will never find a true 100% match. In terms of Kevin White I'm talking about the way he caches and adjust to the ball in the air and the size i understand Fitz ran a 4.6 something that wasn't the point i feel like a lot of other things he does are comparable who gives a fuhhh about a 40 for this its play style!
As for the Leonard Williams as it says in the POST if u can read i was talking more about a YOUNG JJ coming out of the draft. Big, versatile, attacking type guy. If we knew then what we know about JJ now I'm sure 10 teams wouldn't have passed on his services.
Anymore dumb questions? cuz i have answers for you
I like the post and agree with it and JJ watt isn't that good Williams could easily be better
Quote:I like the post and agree with it and JJ watt isn't that good Williams could easily be better
Are you just attempting to torpedo any credibility you may have had?
JJ Watt isn't that good? In what universe?
If JJ Watt isn't that good, then who is?
Quote:If JJ Watt isn't that good, then who is?
Players who beat others with skill not effort
Quote:Players who beat others with skill not effort
You don't beat NFL offensive lineman as frequently as he does without having a good amount of both.
Who gives a darn how he gets it done anyway? As long as he does, why does skill or effort matter?
Watt had one of the best seasons for a defensive player ever. Calling him not good doesn't make sense without a lot of valid info to back up that claim, which I can't imagine there is.
Quote:Players who beat others with skill not effort
Lololololololololololol
Quote:You don't beat NFL offensive lineman as frequently as he does without having a good amount of both.
Who gives a darn how he gets it done anyway? As long as he does, why does skill or effort matter?
Skill gets you sacks when you need them effort makes you look good against average players and back ups
Quote:Skill gets you sacks when you need them effort makes you look good against average players and back ups
You are absolutely clueless.
Quote:Skill gets you sacks when you need them effort makes you look good against average players and back ups
You're entitled to your wrong opinion.
Everyone can have an opinion, that's what makes this thing work. How one would come to this opinion of JJ Watt I have no idea.
If he were a Jaguar I'm thinking you would be singing a different tune.
I'm curious when Fitz ever ran a 4.6, I don't recall him running at the combine and I remember him in the 4.4's at his proday.
Quote:Watt had one of the best seasons for a defensive player ever. Calling him not good doesn't make sense without a lot of valid info to back up that claim, which I can't imagine there is.
He's had two 20.5 sack seasons in his first four years.
That's incredible to accomplish in an entire career, let alone in two out of your first four seasons.
He had an interception he returned 80 yards for a TD. He's forced 4 fumbles each of the last 3 years.
I was a JJ Watt detractor when he came out of Wisconsin, I claimed I didn't see his combine numbers show up on the field in the games I watched.
I have admitted I was wrong on more than one occasion and JJ Watt is one of my favorite players in the league, even if he's on a rival team. He's a special player and I enjoy watching that type of athlete when they come around.
On top of his on the field accomplishments, he's a great guy off the field too.
Quote:I'm curious when Fitz ever ran a 4.6, I don't recall him running at the combine and I remember him in the 4.4's at his proday.
He ran an OFFICIAL 4.63 at the NFL combine in 2004
Quote:I like the post and agree with it and JJ watt isn't that good Williams could easily be better
Damn i was loving you agreeing with me, Until that part where u said Watt isn't good. He is not only a once in a generation player, he is so skilled the Texans put him on offense get your good players on the field. If your the Best player in the NFL regardless of position I'm sure there is at least a little skill involved.......... just a little thou LOL
Quote:Interested to hear everyones thoughts on who they would compare top pick too, or anyone you would like to see in teal and black.
Fowler = Terrell Suggs
Time will tell if Dante Fowler Jr. even comes close to achieving the excellence that Terrell Suggs has. Yet, from a measurable standpoint, many teams were concerned about Suggs' 40 time coming out of Arizona St. While Fowler's Bench Press and Vertical Jump numbers weren't great, overall I think his measurables and work out numbers will help him in the 2015 Draft.