Quote:Conservatism is about retaining the culture and traditional structures is it not?
You have the social aspect. Conservatism VS Liberalism used to boil down to simple ideas on that. Marriage rules, abortions, etc.
Conservative government is about free labor and trade, and supposed to be less government interference. The Constitution should not be changed or altered (but then we'd never have progressed the way a society should)
But D.C. is so polluted none of it makes any sense anymore. You have conservative liberals, and liberal conservatives, Like Killary and Trump. Far left nuts like Bernie and far right weirdos like Ted Cruz.
Libertarians have a better view in my opinion. (but I don't agree with the entire platform) Your social life is your own and that is between you and YOUR God.
Government stay out of my life your entire and only purpose is to serve and protect the people, period.
Problem with the left is they've been programmed to believe they need it (the government) this way and the right is all wrong for having differing opinions on things that matter or a morality level. How are you going to tell someone with Christian beliefs they are not allowed to be anti-abortion? That's just as wrong as them telling you you can't -insert one of many cants-
And the right has been so screwed up for so long that they actually lost their primary to a lifelong liberal in Donald Trump.
The two party system is dead.
So the whole liberalism vs conservatism thing is silly...
Because I'm willing to bet anyone in their late 20's early to mid 30s probably has some liberal and some conservative beliefs. Anyone too old to come around to society will be dead soon. I'm worried about our youth though... Being sold some bad stuff from both sides.
And the crazies well... they are the ones still so far left (or right) that they believe they are owed something for nothing just by being (or that their godly rules are broken by so many that Hell and the Rapture itself are upon us.)
Quote:https://www.theguardian.com/politics/201...CMP=twt_gu
What a colossal embarrassment this whole travesty of a presidency is.
And we are only three weeks in.
It's already beyond ridiculous.
Please keep posting liberal news outlets flailing about.
Entertainment gold.
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What a colossal embarrassment this whole travesty of a presidency is.
And we are only three weeks in.
It's already beyond ridiculous.
Its only ridiculous if you are a far-left loon reading far-left propaganda. To the rest of America, its varies from indifference to absolute approval.
America does not agree with you or the MSM's agenda, bro. The sooner you realize that and stop outraging over fake news, the sooner you can start wanting to make America great.
Quote:Its only ridiculous if you are a far-left loon reading far-left propaganda. To the rest of America, its varies from indifference to absolute approval.
America does not agree with you or the MSM's agenda, bro. The sooner you realize that and stop outraging over fake news, the sooner you can start wanting to make America great.
What planet do you people live on? If I told you three weeks ago that the British government snubbed their noses at Obama, you would gleefully exclaim how disrespected he is around the world.
Did you miss the part about widespread protests already being mitigated when he visits?
Call it fake news. Call it a liberal agenda. Put your fingers in your ears and say la la la I can't hear you. But remember, the joke is on you.
Quote:What planet do you people live on? If I told you three weeks ago that the British government snubbed their noses at Obama, you would gleefully exclaim how disrespected he is around the world.
Did you miss the part about widespread protests already being mitigated when he visits?
Call it fake news. Call it a liberal agenda. Put your fingers in your ears and say la la la I can't hear you. But remember, the joke is on you.
This level of delusion. I can't even.
Democrats are going to lose the next 10 elections because loons like yourself can't adapt. If people cared about respect from British Parliament Hillary would be President.
Quote:This level of delusion. I can't even.
Democrats are going to lose the next 10 elections because loons like yourself can't adapt. If people cared about respect from British Parliament Hillary would be President.
I'm starting to think that this country is being trolled by the libs.. Nobody can really be that stupid.. Right?
Quote:Most libs are.
They aren't stupid. Many are highly educated. They lack critical thinking and common sense.
I think it's just a massive troll job set up by the head troll Hillary
Quote:I think it's just a massive troll job set up by the head troll Hillary
Didn't I already tell you to zip it convict?
Quote:Its only ridiculous if you are a far-left loon reading far-left propaganda. To the rest of America, its varies from indifference to absolute approval.
America does not agree with you or the MSM's agenda, bro. The sooner you realize that and stop outraging over fake news, the sooner you can start wanting to make America great.
He's a communist. The LAST thing he wants is to see America great.
Quote:I'm starting to think that this country is being trolled by the libs.. Nobody can really be that stupid.. Right?
Quote:Most ALL libs are.
Had to fix that one for ya.
Quote:What planet do you people live on? If I told you three weeks ago that the British government snubbed their noses at Obama, you would gleefully exclaim how disrespected he is around the world.
Did you miss the part about widespread protests already being mitigated when he visits?
Call it fake news. Call it a liberal agenda. Put your fingers in your ears and say la la la I can't hear you. But remember, the joke is on you.
Like any government there is right and left. You are only reading one side and overreacting. Did you not see Theresa May's response?
<a class="bbc_url" href='https://youtu.be/yddV0zOww9E'>https://youtu.be/yddV0zOww9E</a>
Trump's winning of the election was more about economics than anything. And people want to keep discrediting that. He's not as polished and well crafted from a speaking stand point when it comes to our past political leaders. And somehow people decipher that into him being racist. Just like the so called "Muslim Ban" not really being a Muslim ban when he didn't even touch nor list the biggest five Muslim based countries.
Meanwhile. Mexico has a Southern Border and Wall that keeps Guatemala out of it's country. And you have a ton of Muslim based countries that ban Jews from entering their own countries. Pot meet Kettle.
What bothers me the most is just the overall hypocrisy of it all. I'll go back to the discussion about the Wall. Bill Clinton and Barack Obama used the same ideology when it came to the border during their times of presidency. They both talked about tightening up security. They both stated we're a "Nation of Immigrants. But also a nation of Laws". They both stated they'd work hard to boot illegals out of the country and keep them at bay. Nobody batted an eye. But this border issue has been in our political system for over two decades now.
But, back to the economic part. Now, for those crying racists voted for him and support him. Look, Trump won the hearts of the Rust Belt over during his election. That's the truth of it. Look at the voting map. Most of the big cities that are liberal voted for Clinton. And the working class communities in the Rust Belt leaned back to the right. People cried racism yet in fact, four of the states that voted in Obama TWICE went for Trump this go around. So you mean to tell me after eight years of Obama these four states have suddenly turned "racist"?
Stop it. What's happening is that since 2008. After our Government bailed out the "too big to fails". And they kept promising the working class things that never came to fruition. People had enough of the lies. We kept hearing the people in the Rust Belt had White Privilege from the far left and Neoliberals while they saw their industrial plants close down and move out of town. And then they all had the audacity to call them the "racist" ones. The "bigots". So it was easy for them to make the switch.
But, this is happening on a worldwide scale. Not just in America. Other European countries are tightening up their borders to immigration as they cannot take on much more with their own issues at hand. They don't have the capacity.
That's why Brexit also happened. Western Europe wants to get away from the Euro as they fear it'll turn them into Eastern Europe pay wage level wise and they'll have even more global competition for export share with the Chinese. The working class world is tired of hearing how great Globalism is and how it works. When it's failed over the last twenty years. It's beyond EU and the US. It's about the elites and the 1% selling the working class out.
And you're fixing to see like minded right wing based conservatives in France and Germany take over the political spectrum as well. The Front National party of France spearheaded by Marine Le Pen could very well win out in Spring of 2017. The current president of France has a 4% approval rating...
Merkel is also at risk of losing her title to the right winged AFD party of Germany as well after the influx of immigrants into Germany that she's allowed with her CDU party and political views and the stagnant economy and job issues over there. The rest of the globe is waking up. People are revolting against the creditors and the bankers with these elections now. And it should be quite obvious.
Quote:Trump's winning of the election was more about economics than anything. And people want to keep discrediting that. He's not as polished and well crafted from a speaking stand point when it comes to our past political leaders. And somehow people decipher that into him being racist. Just like the so called "Muslim Ban" not really being a Muslim ban when he didn't even touch nor list the biggest five Muslim based countries.
Meanwhile. Mexico has a Southern Border and Wall that keeps Guatemala out of it's country. And you have a ton of Muslim based countries that ban Jews from entering their own countries. Pot meet Kettle.
What bothers me the most is just the overall hypocrisy of it all. I'll go back to the discussion about the Wall. Bill Clinton and Barack Obama used the same ideology when it came to the border during their times of presidency. They both talked about tightening up security. They both stated we're a "Nation of Immigrants. But also a nation of Laws". They both stated they'd work hard to boot illegals out of the country and keep them at bay. Nobody batted an eye. But this border issue has been in our political system for over two decades now.
But, back to the economic part. Now, for those crying racists voted for him and support him. Look, Trump won the hearts of the Rust Belt over during his election. That's the truth of it. Look at the voting map. Most of the big cities that are liberal voted for Clinton. And the working class communities in the Rust Belt leaned back to the right. People cried racism yet in fact, four of the states that voted in Obama TWICE went for Trump this go around. So you mean to tell me after eight years of Obama these four states have suddenly turned "racist"?
Stop it. What's happening is that since 2008. After our Government bailed out the "too big to fails". And they kept promising the working class things that never came to fruition. People had enough of the lies. We kept hearing the people in the Rust Belt had White Privilege from the far left and Neoliberals while they saw their industrial plants close down and move out of town. And then they all had the audacity to call them the "racist" ones. The "bigots". So it was easy for them to make the switch.
But, this is happening on a worldwide scale. Not just in America. Other European countries are tightening up their borders to immigration as they cannot take on much more with their own issues at hand. They don't have the capacity.
That's why Brexit also happened. Western Europe wants to get away from the Euro as they fear it'll turn them into Eastern Europe pay wage level wise and they'll have even more global competition for export share with the Chinese. The working class world is tired of hearing how great Globalism is and how it works. When it's failed over the last twenty years. It's beyond EU and the US. It's about the elites and the 1% selling the working class out.
And you're fixing to see like minded right wing based conservatives in France and Germany take over the political spectrum as well. The Front National party of France spearheaded by Marine Le Pen could very well win out in Spring of 2017. The current president of France has a 4% approval rating...
Merkel is also at risk of losing her title to the right winged AFD party of Germany as well after the influx of immigrants into Germany that she's allowed with her CDU party and political views and the stagnant economy and job issues over there. The rest of the globe is waking up. People are revolting against the creditors and the bankers with these elections now. And it should be quite obvious.
Bravo! It's a shame your post will most likely get glossed over for including fact, but thank you for injecting real life, current reasoning.
Trump is God or so he thinks.
Quote:Trump is God or so he thinks.
At least he'll never be President. Just ask obummer.