Only in Pasztor's case, the 'magical offseason' consisted of a bum shoulder rehab, compounded by a hand fracture; the actual tools needed for his craft. Try dismantling a runner's legs, a professor's brain, or a hooker's down parts. Then ask em to go back to work weeks later. See how they function. I don't understand your point, SuperJville.
Quote:Only in Pasztor's case, the 'magical offseason' consisted of a bum shoulder rehab, compounded by a hand fracture; the actual tools needed for his craft. Try dismantling a runner's legs, a professor's brain, or a hooker's down parts. Then ask em to go back to work weeks later. See how they function. I don't understand your point, SuperJville.
my point is... he wasn't a great player to begin with.
He was an undrafted player with very limited physical ability. He outplayed his draft status and played decently for a while on a very bad offensive line.
Going into that off-season, he shouldn't have been a "lock" at RT like he was.
Quote:And this is really my thinking.. well, really it's your thinking, but yeah.. exactly how I feel about it.
With Britton, you kinda got the idea that he would never be that mauler RT we all hoped for. I just get the feeling that Pasztor will come back stronger than ever
rupturing your hamstrings isn't a good way to come back stronger than ever.
He'll have his work cut out for him just to be as strong as he once was in 2015.
Quote:I've been saying even last offseason that Pasztor shouldn't just be penciled in as the starter. He is where he belongs now - the bench. A nice depth player to have but really nothing more.
Jags fans are notorious for taking a couple of weeks of competent play by a young player and just assuming he will become much better in a magical offseason.
Hey now. I resent that. I thought Larry Hart would be magical before training camp started.. Sooooo.....
Quote:rupturing your hamstrings isn't a good way to come back stronger than ever.
He'll have his work cut out for him just to be as strong as he once was in 2015.
He will be back, playing at a higher level than Joeckel, I bet
Let's not forget or undervalue the impact of microsurgery on a mangled labrum. Remember a guy named Tony Boselli? Granted Pasztor's wasn't as severe as Tony's who had a tear, and is no way near the level of the best Jaguar in history...
A labrum fix is highly sensitive and can hamper one significantly. The shoulder joint's socket is highly unstable and shallow, hence the labrum (which is just a cartilage) acts as padding around the socket to sink it deeper towards the upper arm.
Pasztor had labrum surgery early last year, missed most of OTAs and minicamp and still came back and played in preseason, then broke his hand.
We continually reference the injury woes of Joeckel. Pasztor deserves the same consideration, if not moreso. Let's see what hopefully a FULL offseason of rehab does to help his cause. He may not be all world, but he showed glimpses that warrants one to wonder how he would have progressed without these setbacks.
Quote:Let's not forget or undervalue the impact of microsurgery on a mangled labrum. Remember a guy named Tony Boselli? Granted Pasztor's wasn't as severe as Tony's who had a tear, and is no way near the level of the best Jaguar in history...
A labrum fix is highly sensitive and can hamper one significantly. The shoulder joint's socket is highly unstable and shallow, hence the labrum (which is just a cartilage) acts as padding around the socket to sink it deeper towards the upper arm.
Pasztor had labrum surgery early last year, missed most of OTAs and minicamp and still came back and played in preseason, then broke his hand.
We continually reference the injury woes of Joeckel. Pasztor deserves the same consideration, if not moreso. Let's see what hopefully a FULL offseason of rehab does to help his cause. He may not be all world, but he showed glimpses that warrants one to wonder how he would have progressed without these setbacks.
I agree with this. Luke Joeckel would be replaced by now if he was an undrafted FA like Pasztor was (well, an upgrade was found).
I think Pasztor will have a tough time making the roster this year, especially if they draft 1-2 more OL guys.
Quote:I think Pasztor will have a tough time making the roster this year, especially if they draft 1-2 more OL guys.
He should make the roster. You have to keep in mind that he moved to RT because he was such a dominant RG. It wouldn't surprise me if he were to give Zane a run for his money, and at any rate he makes for fantastic depth both at G and RT.
Injuries and mediocre to poor play has been his showing since Caldwell's arrival. He just lost his starting job with the addition of an expensive free agent in Parnell. He's at best going to be fighting for a backup swing position. He has no capability to beat out Beadles for the OG starting spot. My memory does not remember him being a "dominant" guard. He was "adequate". Just a difference of opinion...
Quote:You have to keep in mind that he moved to RT because he was such a dominant RG.
Wut
Guys like McClendon (is he even on the roster still?) and Pasztor are OK to have on your team, but are quick to be replaced if we have a mid-round offensive lineman selected.
I hope we get at least 1 offensive lineman in round 4 or later.
I am anxious to see if Brennan Williams has got any game. Microfracture knee surgery in 2013, but was a 3rd round pick. They need to bring in at least one OL, as they only have Bowanko to snap without a backup.
Quote:He should make the roster. You have to keep in mind that he moved to RT because he was such a dominant RG. It wouldn't surprise me if he were to give Zane a run for his money, and at any rate he makes for fantastic depth both at G and RT.
What are you talking about?
Err... I meant LG.
Sometimes I forget that I often play closer attention to OL play than the average fan who only knows about a guy if Oesher reports on him. Let me fill you in...
Pasztor was brought up from the practice squad as an undrafted rookie. Toward the end of their disastrous 2012 season, the Jaguars were searching for answers as their OL was failing to get the job done. As a last ditch effort they inserted Pasztor into the starting LG role for the final three games of the season. The result was better than they could have possibly hoped for. Austin blew open holes for the running game and looked great in pass protection as well. He looked so great that they thought just maybe he could play RT. The following season he'd get his shot when Monroe was traded. Starting with the Rams game that would see Joekel go down, Pasztor has started every game at RT that he's been healthy for.
Am I really the only one who remembers him dominating as a rookie LG to finish off the 2012 season? Pay closer attention people.
Quote:Err... I meant LG.
Sometimes I forget that I often play closer attention to OL play than the average fan who only knows about a guy if Oesher reports on him. Let me fill you in...
Pasztor was brought up from the practice squad as an undrafted rookie. Toward the end of their disastrous 2012 season, the Jaguars were searching for answers as their OL was failing to get the job done. As a last ditch effort they inserted Pasztor into the starting LG role for the final three games of the season. The result was better than they could have possibly hoped for. Austin blew open holes for the running game and looked great in pass protection as well. He looked so great that they thought just maybe he could play RT. The following season he'd get his shot when Monroe was traded. Starting with the Rams game that would see Joekel go down, Pasztor has started every game at RT that he's been healthy for.
Am I really the only one who remembers him dominating as a rookie LG to finish off the 2012 season? Pay closer attention people.
Seriously...what the hell are you talking about?
That simply did not happen.
It did High Score. Dunno if he was dominant, but he was inserted into the lineup in December 2012 by Murlakey and co and started the last 3 games, at Miami, home v. Pats and finale in titville, all losses of course.
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Am I really the only one who remembers him dominating as a rookie LG to finish off the 2012 season? Pay closer attention people.
I remember him playing guard in 2012, but my recollection of his performance there cannot be described as "dominating."
He played much better at RT in 2013 than he did at guard in 2012, IMO. Caldwell and Pasztor both made remarks about it (tackle) being a better position for him.
Quote:you know... i think i was drinking last night.. no.. no. I was. I was a little buzzed. Thinking of Austin. Austin was on my mind.
She left without leavin' a number
Said she needed to clear her mind
He figured she'd gone back to Austin
'Cause she talked about it all the time
It was almost a year before she called him up
Three rings and an answering machine is what she got
If you're callin' 'bout the car I sold it
If this is Tuesday night I'm bowling
If you've got somethin' to sell, you're wastin' your time, I'm not buyin'
If it's anybody else, wait for the tone,
You know what to do
And P.S. if this is Austin, I still love you
Quote:She left without leavin' a number
Said she needed to clear her mind
He figured she'd gone back to Austin
'Cause she talked about it all the time
It was almost a year before she called him up
Three rings and an answering machine is what she got
If you're callin' 'bout the car I sold it
If this is Tuesday night I'm bowling
If you've got somethin' to sell, you're wastin' your time, I'm not buyin'
If it's anybody else, wait for the tone,
You know what to do
And P.S. if this is Austin, I still love you
Mother of god. That song is awful.