Quote:This from the same guy who said Preston Smith can't rush like M. Bennett...keep up the good work!
9 sacks senior year vs 6.5 whole career
Stalking me? Bennett is not a sack monster, but he's had between 7-9 sacks the last few years
in the NFL, which is impressive for a player who doesn't work strictly from the edge.
Green-Beckham's measurables and limited stats are impressive. If it weren't for his off-field issues, many would consider him on par with or better than Cooper as a prospect.
Quote:Stalking me? Bennett is not a sack monster, but he's had between 7-9 sacks the last few years in the NFL, which is impressive for a player who doesn't work strictly from the edge.
Green-Beckham's measurables and limited stats are impressive. If it weren't for his off-field issues, many would consider him on par with or better than Cooper as a prospect.
Don't flatter yourself…when you make goofy comments like a 9 sack a year guy being a limited pass rusher and only for depth purposes it gets noticed...
as have DGB the best WR prospect comments…he was kicked off a team and hasn't played in a year...
28 for 395 and 5 TD
59 for 883 and 12 TD
is comparable to Donte Moncrief's 1st two years…except Donte was able to not be a dumb dumb and put up another solid 3rd year
31 for 454 and 4 TD
66 for 979 and 10 TD
59 for 939 and 6 TD
Even Kelvin Benjamin lasted until 28th pick and had more impressive numbers...
But to compare him to White and Cooper…is about on par with 9 sacks in 1 year being meh and depth chart lvl
White:
35 for 507 and 5 TD
109 for 1447 and 10 TD
and
Cooper
59 for 1000 and 11 TD
45 for 746 and 4 TD
124 for 1727 and 16 TD
White blew DGB out of the water at the combine and DGB had a .5 better vert while Cooper beat him in every other drill...
Quote:Don't flatter yourself…when you make goofy comments like a 9 sack a year guy being a limited pass rusher and only for depth purposes it gets noticed...
This is really petty. I commented on the Preston Smith scouting report you posted that stated that he might be limited as a pass rusher, or something along those lines. In the same post you compared him to Michael Bennett, a proven NFL pass rusher, and I said not so fast. Why is this so offensive to you, Mr. super scout?
Quote:Don't flatter yourself…when you make goofy comments like a 9 sack a year guy being a limited pass rusher and only for depth purposes it gets noticed...
as have DGB the best WR prospect comments…he was kicked off a team and hasn't played in a year...
28 for 395 and 5 TD
59 for 883 and 12 TD
is comparable to Donte Moncrief's 1st two years…except Donte was able to not be a dumb dumb and put up another solid 3rd year
31 for 454 and 4 TD
66 for 979 and 10 TD
59 for 939 and 6 TD
Even Kelvin Benjamin lasted until 28th pick and had more impressive numbers...
But to compare him to White and Cooper…is about on par with 9 sacks in 1 year being meh and depth chart lvl
White:
35 for 507 and 5 TD
109 for 1447 and 10 TD
and
Cooper
59 for 1000 and 11 TD
45 for 746 and 4 TD
124 for 1727 and 16 TD
White blew DGB out of the water at the combine and DGB had a .5 better vert while Cooper beat him in every other drill...
Green-Beckham might not have his head screwed on straight, and that could limit him as it did in college. No one's disputing that. On the other hand, the guy is 6'5" and runs and catches pretty well. He's more of a projection boom/bust player. His ceiling could be AJ Green, but his floor could be Reggie Williams. Therefore, I would not want him in the top 10, like Cooper, who's a very polished route runner and more of a sure thing.
Quote:This is really petty. I commented on the Preston Smith scouting report you posted that stated that he might be limited as a pass rusher, or something along those lines. In the same post you compared him to Michael Bennett, a proven NFL pass rusher, and I said not so fast. Why is this so offensive to you, Mr. super scout?
I would never compare the two...
P.Smith would be a Leo that is not the position Bennett plays.
It was another poster who posted it to which I responded to your critique of his mock saying P.Smith in the 3rd is meh and ok for depth and is a limited pass rusher.
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It's not offensive to me but when you critique someone's mock pick with analysis that makes no sense it gets noticed...
Just like your 15 is the best spot for the best WR in this draft comment...people notice off the wall comments so don't be surprised when they call you on it.
I just found it humorous that the day before was the P.Smith comment and then now it was DGB the best WR comment.
Quote:I would never compare the two...
P.Smith would be a Leo that is not the position Bennett plays.
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It's not offensive to me but when you critique someone's mock pick with analysis that makes no sense it gets noticed...
Just like your 15 is the best spot for the best WR in this draft comment...people notice off the wall comments so don't be surprised when they call you on it.
I just found it humorous that the day before was the P.Smith comment and then now it was DGB the best WR comment.
Preston Smith is meh as a Leo pick early and Beckham has all the tools, save for perhaps the maturity, to be a serious weapon for an offense if he gets good coaching and stays out of trouble. Nothing outlandish here. You're the only one objecting.
Quote:Preston Smith is meh as a Leo pick early and Beckham has all the tools, save for perhaps the maturity, to be a serious weapon for an offense if he gets good coaching and stays out of trouble. Nothing outlandish here. You're the only one objecting.
Once again Smith as a 3rd round pick would be amazing even KYJAGGY would tell ya I'm right on that. The outlandish comment was saying he wasn't a Bennett as far as pass rrushing when the dude got 9 sacks last year compared to Bennett's career 6.5 in college.
And just look in this thread for people saying huh to the 15th pick DGB being the best WR of this draft.
Quote:Once again Smith as a 3rd round pick would be amazing even KYJAGGY would tell ya I'm right on that. The outlandish comment was saying he wasn't a Bennett as far as pass rrushing when the dude got 9 sacks last year compared to Bennett's career 6.5 in college.
And just look in this thread for people saying huh to the 15th pick DGB being the best WR of this draft.
3rd round pick is fine for Smith. Bennett was a late bloomer, even in the NFL. His didn't collect many sacks his first few years then he exploded. That's why stats aren't the only story when projecting talent, but you seem to be a strict numbers guy, which is fine I guess. Doesn't matter since neither of us gets paid for scouting.
Quote:Once again Smith as a 3rd round pick would be amazing even KYJAGGY would tell ya I'm right on that. The outlandish comment was saying he wasn't a Bennett as far as pass rrushing when the dude got 9 sacks last year compared to Bennett's career 6.5 in college.
And just look in this thread for people saying huh to the 15th pick DGB being the best WR of this draft.
Preston Smith is a 1st round talent. I'd snatch him up in a heartbeat at 36 if he was available, especially over any of the non Gurley RBs...or most anyone except Byron Jones really.
Quote:3rd round pick is fine for Smith. Bennett was a late bloomer, even in the NFL. His didn't collect many sacks his first few years then he exploded. That's why stats aren't the only story when projecting talent, but you seem to be a strict numbers guy, which is fine I guess. Doesn't matter since neither of us gets paid for scouting.
I don't profess to be a scout but comments like DGB being the best WR in the draft or P.Smith being average and not much of a pass rusher are humurous...
Nothing more to it...