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In a trade down situation I have to think that Brandon Scherff may be a target as well, although I personally hope the move would be for Ray (I'd be ok with Beasley or Gregory as well).

Quote:Or maybe Alabama was overrated because Cooper went there...

this, they would of probably had at least 2 or 3 less wins last year if not more if Cooper wasnt on the team. He single handedly won a couple games by himself

Quote:Since White had a better combine than Cooper, it makes you wonder if Cooper was overrated because he went to Alabama? I have a headache.

 

It happened to Trent Richardson.

Quote:This, they would of probably had at least 2 or 3 less wins last year if not more if Cooper wasnt on the team. He single handedly won a couple games by himself

 

If Alabama only won 11 games because of Amari Cooper, it is a perfect example of the SEC being overrated.

Quote:I have been back and forth on this one it seems a thousand times. At first I thought the Titans were merely playing games with their adamant stand on going with Mettenberger and drafting Leonard Williams. Then I began to believe their stance believing Leonard Williams would be their pick. Yet now I get the feeling that there is an 75% chance that Mariota is taken with Pick 2, either with the Titans taking the Oregon QB or the Titans accepting a trade offer. In either case, I am feeling more and more convinced that Leonard Williams drops to the Jags at Pick 3 and the Jags take him as the BAP.

 

So what does that do for the Jags Dline? Well, initially, Leonard Williams can man the 3-Tech for SenDerrick Marks, with Clemons manning the Leo, Odrick the 5-Tech and Roy Miller manning the Nose Tackle. I can envision a lineup with Odrick, Miller, Marks and Williams as the 4 Horseman of the Apocalypse.

 

As much, as I would be happy with Dante Fowler at Pick 3, I think if Leonard Williams is there at Pick 3 the team will most likely take him over Fowler.

With backups before draft being 

 

Leo: Branch,Davis,Smith

DT: Abry Jones,Hood

SDE:Alualu

 

That's 11 players already

Quote:Well, there are some concerns...


 

http://www.jaguars.com/media-gallery/vid...9c3f75eae2

 

 

Greg Cosell said he watched four games and had the following evaluation...


 

<p style="margin-left:40px;">I think he's a nice player, but I don't think he's special at this point; he's not a true quick twitch guy ... He has a tendency to play high. There are too many times he gave the offensive linemen his chest which negates almost everything. I don't think he's a natural pass rusher at this point. I didn't think he played really well in space. I think you saw a flash player who made the occasional impressive play ... As far as what he is right now, he's not a three technique. When you think of that you think of a Gerald McCoy coming out of Oklahoma; you think of Sheldon Richardson coming out of Missouri; he's not that guy right now.

There are issues with all the top 10. Just think if we were looking at QB's

The only trade back I am fine with is either a trade where we only move back a few spots and gain a few extra picks or a trade back involving multiple future 1st and 2nd round picks. This draft is not full of elite talent and we are in a prime spot to obtain a top pass rusher, something we have not had in a while. A trade back to maybe six for an extra 2 and 5th would be fine because we could still net a Gregory, Fowler or Beasley; all of whom I am fine with us drafting. Falling back to around 20 is going to cost a team like Caldwell said. I wouldn't do that unless an RG III trade is in place. Honestly more than that because the trade is so far back and the elite talent is not there. 

 

Sometimes just drafting the player is the best option. 

Quote:While everyone talks about trades for Marcus Mariota, it seems nobody is talking about trades for elite pass rushers. What if a team wants Lenoard Williams, who is considered the best overall draft prospect? The Jaguars could decide it is not too risky to trade down because Vic Beasley and Dante Fowler will be available later if that team also has a top 10 pick. Would you accept the trade?

I dont see any scenario where Leonard Williams isnt drafted in the Top 3, and DE Fowler will most likely be drafted in the top 5 as an edge pass rushing DE is considered a premium position of desire (like a QB).  I think Mariota might go 1st overall, Williams 2nd, and Fowler 3rd but the Jaguars might trade down to get WR Cooper.

If the Jaguars want Cooper they might as well take him at #3, but I don't see them going WR in the first two rounds.

If the Jags have a slot WR they really like, they might go that route in Rd 2. Don't know who that Slot WR could be.