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Caldwell needs impact players on this team.  I think the odds in this year's draft drops off considerably beyond the top 10 players for an impact one.  At 17, the premium edge rushers and wide receivers are likely gone. 

Quote:Caldwell needs impact players on this team.  I think the odds in this year's draft drops off considerably beyond the top 10 players for an impact one.  At 17, the premium edge rushers and wide receivers are likely gone. 

 

To trade down without dropping out of the top 10, we would have to call the Bears. The Jets have no reason to trade up for a quarterback and the Rams just got an upgrade from the Eagles. The Redskins are keeping RG3 and Colt McCoy for next season. If the Bears don't want to trade Jay Cutler - and I can't figure out if there is any truth to that rumor - staying in the top 10 will require staying put unless somebody wants to trade up for a wide receiver or pass rusher.

Quote:Even if the Chargers were willing to make this trade,  I don't think that the Chargers # 1 in 2015 and # 1 in 2016 would be enough to satisfy the Jaguars.    The Chargers probably would have to add a 2nd Round pick in the trade,   with the possibility they would get back a Day 3 pick.  

 

My initial reaction was to think of the RG3 trade (3 1st rounders and 2nd in exchange for the 2nd overall pick IIRC). A drop from 3 to 17 is really really really far. I was thinking getting back:

 

17th pick this year

2015 2nd round

2016 1st round

2016 2nd round

2016 3rd round

2017 2nd round

I don't think they will need to trade up to get him.

Rumors are continuing to swirl:


http://m.nbcsports.com/content/talk-tenn...run-rivers

If the Titans make that trade, they will be firing the coach and GM within two years. Everyone seems to have forgotten how awful Rivers was for a couple of seasons there, and at 33, he could return to that form at any time.

Rivers is a nice QB. But hard to overlook (and sort of amazing) that in six of the last seven years, the Chargers have gone 7-9, 8-8 or 9-7. How much better would he really make them?

Per rotoworld:

Quote:SD knows Rivers serious about anti-LA stance

Philip Rivers | SD


(April 14, 2015 11:02 AM EDT)


The Chargers reportedly know the Philip Rivers is serious about not wanting to play in Los Angeles.

We're still fuzzy on exactly why Rivers is so against playing 120 miles up the freeway, but this isn't some narrative penned by the media. Rivers has told the team he'll be playing out the final year of his contract and his confidant at the Union-Tribune, Kevin Acee, believes the veteran quarterback won't be back if the team moves to L.A. The Chargers rumored interest in trading up for Oregon QB Marcus Mariota continues to gain steam.


SOURCE: UNION-TRIBUNE SAN DIEGO

Both QBs should be off the board by 6 at the latest.

Jameis Winston Scores A Solid 27 on the Wonderlic

IIRC, Gabbert scored in the 40's..

Quote:IIRC, Gabbert scored in the 40's..

42


Manning got a 29 IIRC

Quote:IIRC, Gabbert scored in the 40's..

I think most people knew Gabbert was smart, he just sucked at QB

Quote:Jameis Winston Scores A Solid 27 on the Wonderlic

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Meets the criteria for 'the rule' barely though with games played also but nevertheless meets it

Once again we are at three.

 

Once again we are in a very good position in the draft.

 

Perhaps not the ideal place...but a very good position.

 

One of two things happens.

 

A.  Winston and Mariota go 1-2 and if the Jaguars have evaluated the talent and ranked the boards correctly, they should have their pick of the best non QB in the draft on either side of the ball.We select that guy and improve the team; or

 

B.  One of the two QBs falls, the demand for the remaining QB gets even more fevered, some desperate team offers a nice load of draft choices, we trade down, select several guys and, if the Jaguars have evaluated the talent and ranked the boards correctly, improve the team.

 

I like it.

 

That said, barring a trade down that results in gaining some other team's first round pick next year, I want the Jaguars to draft no higher than 22-23 next year.

 

I'm ready for the team to win.

Quote:42


Manning got a 29 IIRC

 

Yep, Gabbert blew away all the other QBs on those lists with his wonderlic knowledge.

 

According to the Rule of 26-27-60 he just needed 1 more college start to be a successful QB in the NFL.

 

Who could have known that???????

 

Now that same rule has Brandon Weedon and Christian Ponder with passing grades, so take that for what it's worth.

Quote:Yep, Gabbert blew away all the other QBs on those lists with his wonderlic knowledge.


According to the Rule of 26-27-60 he just needed 1 more college start to be a successful QB in the NFL.


Who could have known that???????


Now that same rule has Brandon Weedon and Christian Ponder with passing grades, so take that for what it's worth.

The Wonderlic is pretty pointless unless you're results are extreme one way or another. Aka guys like Vince Young.


I don't know why they still use it.

Quote:Yep, Gabbert blew away all the other QBs on those lists with his wonderlic knowledge.


According to the Rule of 26-27-60 he just needed 1 more college start to be a successful QB in the NFL.


Who could have known that???????


Now that same rule has Brandon Weedon and Christian Ponder with passing grades, so take that for what it's worth.

Actually Brandon Weeden didnt have a passing grade he only started 26 college games

Quote:Caldwell needs impact players on this team. I think the odds in this year's draft drops off considerably beyond the top 10 players for an impact one. At 17, the premium edge rushers and wide receivers are likely gone.

Dgb likely won't be gone by 17, just think even if him and JB could alternate suspensions we would be set at WR!