But he's never played at 260.
Who is to say he can put on 25 lbs without losing his explosion?
To me, his weight and skinny legs are big question marks.
You don't draft a guy 3rd overall and he's 25lbs away from his playing weight.
Quote:But he's never played at 260.
Who is to say he can put on 25 lbs without losing his explosion?
To me, his weight and skinny legs are big question marks.
You don't draft a guy 3rd overall and he's 25lbs away from his playing weight.
And you don't draft tweener linebackers there, either. That's what makes taking a LEO at 3 such a tough pill to swallow.
That's why I'd prefer Williams or trade down. If you can't, Cooper or Gregory. Gregory is the closest thing to an elite pass rushing RDE or LEO in this draft. Just about everyone else is either better suited for 3-4 rush OLB, or is behind Gregory in talent and don't warrant a pick as high as three.
If there were better QBs, LTs, and CBs in this draft IMO all these pass rushing tweeners would have a hard time being drafted in the top 10.
I still feel like Beasley offers the most positional versatility and impact for this team. I can envision him being a First and Second down OTTO, then moving to a down lineman for passing downs. Maybe not specifically the LEO spot, but having a permanent position within the "Lightning" package.
Quote:And you don't draft tweener linebackers there, either. That's what makes taking a LEO at 3 such a tough pill to swallow.
That's why I'd prefer Williams or trade down. If you can't, Cooper or Gregory. Gregory is the closest thing to an elite pass rushing RDE or LEO in this draft. Just about everyone else is either better suited for 3-4 rush OLB, or is behind Gregory in talent and don't warrant a pick as high as three.
If there were better QBs, LTs, and CBs in this draft IMO all these pass rushing tweeners would have a hard time being drafted in the top 10.
I feel ya, that's similar to how I see it, except I think would prefer Fowler and Beasley over Gregory.
To me, the only ones "worth" the 3rd pick are Winston, Mariota, Williams, and Cooper.
I would be fine with Williams.
The next thing I would like is a trade down.
If we can't, I would take Cooper.
I have no doubt that Gregory could carry the weight to be a full time LEO.
The key, of course is to find the right weight to give him stoutness against the run without sacrificing the quickness, speed and acceleration to make him an effective pass rusher.
Quote:But he's never played at 260.
Who is to say he can put on 25 lbs without losing his explosion?
To me, his weight and skinny legs are big question marks.
You don't draft a guy 3rd overall and he's 25lbs away from his playing weight.
That's partially my concern but also is can he keep the weight on? Fluctuating that much is concerning.
I have doubts because he's never done it.
He's got the "Teddy Bridgewater" build with very thin legs.
Not saying I'm an expert though, it could happen.i just think at #3 overall you have to find a player that's not such a project.
Quote:I have doubts because he's never done it.
He's got the "Teddy Bridgewater" build with very thin legs.
Not saying I'm an expert though, it could happen.i just think at #3 overall you have to find a player that's not such a project.
He shows enough on cutups that I still think he is the best LEO in the class even playing at 235. He still showed the ability to repeatedly overpower some of the better OTs he faced, such as Flowers for Miami who is a fringe 1st round OT and primarily known for his strength. Gregory abused him all game long.
I prefer Beasley at LEO rather than Gregory. I can see the argument, Gregory is a better athlete but I like how much more polished Beasley is.
Quote:I prefer Beasley at LEO rather than Gregory. I can see the argument, Gregory is a better athlete but I like how much more polished Beasley is.
Huh? No one is a better athlete than Beasley except maybe Dupree is neck and neck. Gregory is just longer. Beasley's relative lack length and incredible lateral athleticism make him an awesome OTTO candidate. Think Von MIller.
Gregory's size is the reason I think hes the better athlete. He is longer, taller, and has a bigger frame than Beasley. And is still just behind him in explosiveness. Its hard to find people that big who still move like that. So if you wanted to build a prototype looking LEO it would probably be him.
I could see Beasley at OTTO as well though. He will probably play in both positions depending on the situation.
Quote:Huh? No one is a better athlete than Beasley except maybe Dupree is neck and neck. Gregory is just longer. Beasley's relative lack length and incredible lateral athleticism make him an awesome OTTO candidate. Think Von MIller.
I think you are exagerating the need of length for the Leo position. It has to meet certain tresholds yes, bu the longest guy will not automatically be the best Leo.
Gregory technique is still a work in progress whereas Beasley is just pro ready and extremely refined.
Gregory may have more potential but Beasley will have a more immediate impact and I feel like it would be a waste of ability to play him Otto as long as that defense doesn't have a true starter at Leo.
I agree Beasley would be good at Otto but Leo is much more needed and that wouldn't be like fitting a square peg in a round hole (like I feel it would be with Fowler at Leo).
Quote:Uhhhhh you mean this game? He was unimpressive. Very clearly a better edge setter than pass rusher. They didnt double at all, chipped him maybe1/10 sequences.
Fowler has had some impressive games, no doubt, but this was not one of them.
I agree no doubt , just sayin he was more affective between the two players against the same o-line