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Having a great running game and an all pro running back would be nice.


Having a great pass protecting o line and an all pro qb is essential

Quote:Oh how I wish this "rich RB history" could be virtually any other position. The RB thirst on here is ridiculously overboard, and I definitely think that longing for the golden years is part of it.

I agree. As much as I'd love a great RB (who would really complain about having one) the insistance for one here is a little absurd. If the NFL has proved anything recently its that average backs can churn out 1000 yards and the QB and recievers are much more important for the long haul. Wilson makes up for a lot of the deficiencies on that offense, with Graham they should be nearly unstoppable now.


I think we'll see McFadden churn out 1000 yards behind Dal line this year.

Quote:Don't get me wrong I grew up watching means and Taylor I love a ground game, but if you build an offense around the ground game your not even competing in today's NFL

I dont disagree with u with this statement im saying we have to have some kinda of production at rb. Its nice when a rb can break one for 60 and score a td. When is the last time jags had that? They built many great offenses around Peyton Manning yet he only have 1 ring.

Quote:Adrian Peterson - yet the vikings still suck

Arian Foster - yet the Texans could never get over the hump

Darren McFadden - the Raiders did so much during his prime

Maurice Jones-Drew - what did the Jaguars accomplish during his prime?

DeMarco Murray - the Cowboys didn't get far with best back in the league last year

Ray Rice - the year they won was the year Flacco played out of his mind, not Rice.


I can go on and on and on, a feature back is a luxury. It's nice to have but it's not going to win you a superbowl not in today's league.

All those teams had productive seasons when they ran the ball good too. Except Raiders..

Quote:  The performances of Natrone Means in the 1996 season playoffs also jumps out as part of the Jaguars rich RB history.  

Ya' know, Natrone actually was a pretty good back. He never got the accolades for what he did here. Same thing with James Stewert too.

Quote:Having a great running game and an all pro running back would be nice.


Having a great pass protecting o line and an all pro qb is essential

exactly.

Quote:Ya' know, Natrone actually was a pretty good back. He never got the accolades for what he did here. Same thing with James Stewert too.

 

If Means could have kept his weight in check, I think he would have had a more productive career.

Quote:Ya' know, Natrone actually was a pretty good back. He never got the accolades for what he did here. Same thing with James Stewert too.

 

Actually Means really didn't do that much while he was here.  He had a great run of about four games, out of nowhere, to end the season and the first two in the playoffs.  He was a huge contributing factor to the playoff run, but that makes people forget that he really didn't do that much otherwise.

Quote:Actually Means really didn't do that much while he was here.  He had a great run of about four games, out of nowhere, to end the season and the first two in the playoffs.  He was a huge contributing factor to the playoff run, but that makes people forget that he really didn't do that much otherwise.

come on Rico... you know that deep down you really want to join the Natrone Means fan club! I mean, until Fred Taylor showed up, he was really kind of our whole running show.

What we need is a complete back. One that is not only good at running the ball and catching passes out of the backfield, but can also pass block when he needs to. 

What if we finally have a competent scouting dept. and are now able to watch a team that can win with any game plan? I mean.... surround our young QB with talent is what its all about, right? If they feel that picking a franchise RB up is whats best Im all for it. I would also love a prolific passing attack as mentioned earlier too.


The JDR era was bittersweet to me because it was snot nose football. I love the idea of lining up against a team that knows exactly whats coming and repeatedly drive them back off the l.o.s. but when it came down to it and a passing game needed to pull out the playoff victory in N.E. we had to rely on freaking Dennis Northcut as our game changer. Thats a ton of miss managed garbage from the whole front office.

We need both...... rule changes or not the league is going to adjust (already started) to the new era of football being played and a great passing attack with a average RB is not going to get us that dynasty we all long for. The example is already made for a strong run game and a 18td passing attack too. Its really hard to leave out the types of D in this whole equation too.

It doesn't matter what 'style' of football you play as long as you do it well.

I'm all for drafting a RB in the second round or lower. if we trade back in the 1st, I'm even willing to pick one up in there depending on what kind of picks we get.

I'm fine with a second round qb. Anything that will effect Blake positively is fine in my book. 

 

I just remember how bad Gabbert had it. I know he would have been trash anyway but man he never had anything around him to succeed. I really like What Caldwell has done so far. Adding a quality RB even a WR like Green-Beckham if he falls to the top of the 2nd. I'm even starting to warm up to White or Cooper in the first. 

I would be ecstatic to get Green-Beckham.

Quote:Ya' know, Natrone actually was a pretty good back. He never got the accolades for what he did here. Same thing with James Stewert too.

 

I'm a fan of both former RB's.   Natrone Means was a major part of the Chargers drive to the 1994 season Super Bowl.   What Means did for the Jaguars in the 1996 playoffs speaks for itself.

 

James Stewart seemed under appreciated with both the Jags and the Lions.   In Detroit,  part of why this was the case is the standard Barry Sanders set that practically no one could approach.   Stewart was a vastly different type of RB but one that was productive and effective when he could stay relatively healthy.   Injuries were problematic though.   Stewart took plenty of punishment because he was a tall/ upright runner.    Then Bills HC Gregg Williams was responsible for intentionally injuring Stewart,  that ended his career in a pre-season game.   This by itself is a reason why it's appalling  that Gregg Williams was allowed to continue his coaching career after a one year suspension.  

Quote:We don't need an explosive running back, those days are over. It's nice to have one but it's not a position of focus anymore. Part of the reason we've fallen behind the nfl is because we've been so focused on the ground game over the last decade.


It's a passing league and it finally APEARS we are trying to build an offense to air it out.

 

It's like this, the better your QB is, the lesser (but still effective) your RB needs to be.

I'm at a point to where the team has to do something for me to start believing again. All we've had the last 6 years are hopeful signings and no results. 

Here we go once again with talks of a running back. I wish there was someway some how to put Marshawn Lynch in this backfield last year and see how he would have fared. All this talk of getting a beast for a running back seems to forget one important ingredient that ALL GREAT RB's have in common. They ALL have a really good OL in front of them plowing the way. Did the Jags have that this past season? Answer: No, and it wasn't even a close vote. Will they have it this season, maybe.........but probably not. They are probably at least 2 years away from a dominant force OL. Until that happens, all the Marshawn Lynch's of the world aren't going to matter all that much. Guy's like him and other top FA's like (DeMarco Murray for one) won't even give the JAGS an honest look until the OL becomes like that. 

Melvin Gordon would look good in teal....