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I have a feeling the Jaguars will select the highest rated player on their board with their first pick, if they have Amari Cooper/Kevin White rated ahead of an edge rusher I think they'll pull the trigger, especially if Leonard Williams goes 2nd to Ten. David is too smart to pass on an elite prospect to fill a need, especially in a draft that lacks top end elite talent.

 

 

per Rotoworld

 

Seahawks GM John Schneider told Peter King the team has only graded 16 prospects as first-round talents in the 2015 class.

The information was divulged in the Jimmy Graham/Max Unger deal. "But because he has only 16 first-round grades on this year’s class and the Seahawks pick 31st, he thought Graham plus a four for center Max Unger and what was to Schneider essentially a "two" was fair," King writes. 16 might sound like a small number, but teams typically have around 20 prospects labeled as first round talents due to scheme and "culture" fits. This class might lack consensus top end talent, but the depth in the second and third rounds is there. Mar 12 - 10:40 AM
I think this is what a lot of us were saying a couple of weeks ago. This draft doesn't have a lot of elite top end talent, but it is very deep in solid players.

Quote:I think this is what a lot of us were saying a couple of weeks ago. This draft doesn't have a lot of elite top end talent, but it is very deep in solid players.
 

Agree.

 

To add to that, supposedly there are a lot of second round graded talent to be found into the third.  Small pool of first round grades, very large pool of seconds.
Don't really think this draft is that much different than most drafts as far as being top end heavy. 2013 actually seemed much worse as far as elite players at the top.

 

I don't necessarily think it was a bad trade for the Seahawks, but I think this is his way of making it seem like an even better deal.

Quote:Don't really think this draft is that much different than most drafts as far as being top end heavy. 2013 actually seemed much worse as far as elite players at the top.

 

I don't necessarily think it was a bad trade for the Seahawks, but I think this is his way of making it seem like an even better deal.
 

Exactly. His way of justifying a trade he just made.
Well thank god we have the 3rd pick.
QB:       Winston, Mariota

RB:       Gurley

WR:      Cooper, White, Parker

OT:        Fisher, Collins

OL:        Scherff

DT:        Williams

EDGE:   Beasley, Fowler, Dupree, Ray

CB:        Waynes, Collins?

 

My guess to what his value board.

Anybody else still crazy about trading out of #3 to #20?
Quote:Anybody else still crazy about trading out of #3 to #20?
 

Yes, because that's not all you're getting.

 

If Williams is gone, we might as well have pick 10 anyway.
Quote:Yes, because that's not all you're getting.


If Williams is gone, we might as well have pick 10 anyway.


There's plenty of fine players.


Some people just like to trade down for the sake of trading down. Always want a better value deal, whatever that may mean.

(I'm not talking about you btw, just saying)


So trading down to 20 and out of the "elite" talent would be foolish IMO. Getting 2nd and 3rd round value picks are not nearly as important as having a potential impact all-pro guy, which is what you're hoping to get at #3.
Stay put at 3 and draft who you want. Keep it simple stupid.
Quote:Anybody else still crazy about trading out of #3 to #20?
His comments didn't change anything, there's always going to be a huge dropoff from 3 to 20. IMO, we shouldn't trade down unless we are fairly compensated.