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Quote:Nice choice. Fills a big need.


But a bit of a reach at #3 perhaps?

 

By the end of April, he may not be a reach at #3 anymore. Only time will tell.

Quote:By the end of April, he may not be a reach at #3 anymore. Only time will tell.

A safety is always a reach at 3, especially when you think they're not.

Quote:A safety is always a reach at 3, especially when you think they're not.

 

How high is it not a reach to pick one? What if that safety becomes the next Troy Polamalu or Earl Thomas?

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You obviously know and love the team. You are clearly very knowledgeable and ask great questions and make great points.


So respectfully I am kinda going to put you on the spot ....


Tampa takes a QB

Tennessee takes Leonard Williams


Jags are unable to trade down

who is your pick at #3 and why?


Others please feel free to answer as well

This is the real question considering its before the Combine, Free Agency, and Pro Day. I guess off the top of my head right now Fowler. Non DL believe it or not Scherff.

 

According to NFL.com Scherff is a bad right tackle and going to be a right guard - something we don't need.

Quote:How high is it not a reach to pick one? What if that safety becomes the next Troy Polamalu or Earl Thomas?

Earl Thomas was drafted 14th. Troy Polamalu was drafted 16th.

 

It all depends on the strength of the class, but I'd venture a guess that if you're drafting your safety higher than tenth overall, you're shooting too high. In any case, Landon Collins isn't even in the same city as Earl Thomas, let alone the same ballpark. He's closer to Mark Barron (drafted seventh) than Thomas, and we all know how well Barron worked out.

Quote:Earl Thomas was drafted 14th. Troy Polamalu was drafted 16th.

 

It all depends on the strength of the class, but I'd venture a guess that if you're drafting your safety higher than tenth overall, you're shooting too high. In any case, Landon Collins isn't even in the same city as Earl Thomas, let alone the same ballpark. He's closer to Mark Barron (drafted seventh) than Thomas, and we all know how well Barron worked out.

 

Older guys know how Mark Barron worked out. I had never heard of him.

 

The NFL player comparison is actually Jonathan Cyprien, the first pick in the second round two years ago.

Quote:Older guys know how Mark Barron worked out. I had never heard of him.

 

The NFL player comparison is actually Jonathan Cyprien, the first pick in the second round two years ago.

Mark Barron was drafted in 2012...

Quote:To me you gotta go with Danny Shelton. I realize DT isnt the biggest need but the dude is huge with great feet. Those guys are rare. With him though he isnt just a space eater, the guy had double digit tackles for a loss and 9 sacks as a senior. This guy has the potential to be Haloti Ngata but a better pass rusher. And as far as I know the guy isnt a thug. And was an academic all american. A lot going for him as a prospect.


If Leonard Williams isnt there, I may consider Shelton over Ray, Fowler, or Gregory. It depends on what we learn about those other guys as the process moves on. Is Ray as big as listed and as athletic as they say? Is Gregory injury prone? Is Fowler more versatile instead of being great at one thing?

Didnt his teammate lead the nation in sacks with 19? We can draft him later as that edge rusher

Quote:Didn't his teammate lead the nation in sacks with 19? We can draft him later as that edge rusher

 

What teammate?

 

I am sure NFL scouts are looking at a lot more than 19 sacks to determine how good he is at rushing the passer.

Quote:MissJagsFanatic


You obviously know and love the team. You are clearly very knowledgeable and ask great questions and make great points.


So respectfully I am kinda going to put you on the spot ....


Tampa takes a QB

Tennessee takes Leonard Williams


Jags are unable to trade down

who is your pick at #3 and why?


Others please feel free to answer as well

Tampa takes a qb. Tennessee takes Williams. No trade on the table. Ok. I draft the second best QB. (I would love that)


The reason? BAP. You now have leverage on some team that was salivating over said QB and can therefore demand your price if you decide not to keep Mariota for the greatest QB competition since Bledsoe vs Brady. Favre vs Rogers. Griffin vs Cousins. Woops! Did I say Mariota?

Quote:What teammate?


I am sure NFL scouts are looking at a lot more than 19 sacks to determine how good he is at rushing the passer.

He played in the Senior Bowl... Gimme a sec, I'll look it up

I just can't see a GM drafting a safety at #3 unless they think he is the next Ronnie Lott or Jack Tatum.


I can't see the Jags drafting another OT and sinking that much money into the position.


...and Gregory and Ray are too light.


At this time guessing it will be either Williams or Fowler. Believe Fowler is around 260. If not someone please correct me.

Quote:I just can't see a GM drafting a safety at #3 unless they think he is the next Ronnie Lott or Jack Tatum.


I can't see the Jags drafting another OT and sinking that much money into the position.


...and Gregory and Ray are too light.


At this time guessing it will be either Williams or Fowler. Believe Fowler is around 260. If not someone please correct me.

 

Dante Fowler is not widely projected as a top five pick. He will have to be one of the best defensive line performers at the combine to get more top 10 projections. But if he is not a reach at #3, I would definitely be interested.

 

Randy Gregory has more than size to worry about. A scout recently compared him to draft bust Dion Jordan. Of course there probably is another scout criticizing Shane Ray. This is when even the best players get picked apart.

 

Why can't you see us sinking a lot of money into another offensive tackle? We picked a guy for the left side. Now we need to pick a guy for the right side.

Fowler is rated higher than Gregory for most of what I've been seeing

I agree about Fowler. He will have to impress to be a top 3 pick. Seriously impress.


As you know teams almost never have two dominant OT's. The money always goes to the QB's blindside.

Quote:This is the real question considering its before the Combine, Free Agency, and Pro Day. I guess off the top of my head right now Fowler. Non DL believe it or not Scherff.

 

According to NFL.com Scherff is a bad right tackle and going to be a right guard - something we don't need.

I am tired of getting pushed around by the other teams DL. Its time for a all out assault. By the way have you seen him play?

 

Besides we allowed 71 sacks. Nobody's job is safe.

I think we all have to come to grips with the fact that there isnt a slam dunk at #3 if Williams is off the board. Its a weak draft, but with good solid depth. If we cant trade out of the pick, either shoot for the moon with the highest upside (Fowler or Gregory) or go with the safest choice (Amari Cooper).

Quote:Tampa takes a qb. Tennessee takes Williams. No trade on the table. Ok. I draft the second best QB. (I would love that)


The reason? BAP. You now have leverage on some team that was salivating over said QB and can therefore demand your price if you decide not to keep Mariota for the greatest QB competition since Bledsoe vs Brady. Favre vs Rogers. Griffin vs Cousins. Woops! Did I say Mariota?

 

Actually Marcus Mariota is not the BAP at #3. In fact, a lot of players are ranked higher than him on Daniel Jeremiah's Top 50 list. If you want the BAP regardless of position, you want Amari Cooper.