Quote:Ok... Apart from the cheating.. What else do the Patriots do that the rest of the NFL can copy ?
I don't think you can put the win over the Seahawks (or most of the other games) down to under inflated balls.
better preparation, better adjustment, best coach and qb in the nfl.
Did spy gate actually give them an advantage? Did the "under inflated" balls actually give them an advantage?
Or perhaps having the best QB (in my opinion of all time) and one of the best coaches of all time have an effect. The main thing teams should learn is that like the Patriots, you have to game plan properly, prepare properly and play to the strengths of the players you have.
Yes I think they should have got Brady a proper number 1 receiver (bar Moss) but that makes their success even more amazing. And Brady's legacy even more undeniable. Put him in Montana's team and my god...
For those who are saying everyone does it. SO why are the Patriots the only ones winning SBs?
^They haven't won in 10 years. That's a bad example. Remember when Fred Taylor said the preparation and game planning/game film were much more integrated in NE than Jville? He was amazed with that organization.
Quote:For those who are saying everyone does it. SO why are the Patriots the only ones winning SBs?
Based on the 2 Super Bowls with the Giants I'd say the NY receivers were using some Rice a Roni on those gloves.
Quote:After last years dominant Superbowl performance by the Seahawks, everyone seemed to want to emulate them and a lot of the top teams used free agency and the draft to upgrade their defensive backs... But what will NFL franchises want to copy from the Patriots model ?
Will we see more dink and dunk short passing ? Will everyone be after the next Gronk ? Will we see more emphasis on keeping the QB in the pocket with strong OL play ?
Short white guys can play to.When your Brady it really don't matter who you have at WR.
I don't really even understand the concept of this thread. It's not like the Seahawks got blown out. They could have just as easily won this game.
They taught me that having the GOAT at QB makes things a tad bit easier for being a dominate franchise for over a decade.
Quote:They taught me that having the GOAT at QB makes things a tad bit easier for being a dominate franchise for over a decade.
Dominate Franchises are the best. I love when they dominant another team. Just awesome.
Autocorrect has failed me. Take to me jail im ready ociffer.
Quote:Autocorrect has failed me. Take to me jail im ready ociffer.
Step this way sir, we'll get you introduced to your Paroll Officer.
I think what the Patriots and other consistently top teams teach us is how important 2 things are: stability and a high level quarterback.
I have been talking with my Dad and this is the conclusion we came to. We think of the Browns for example and what have they not had since they returned to the league, stability or a high level quarterback. The Browns front office and coaching staff seems to change pretty much every year or at the longest 2 years. That means they are constantly changing their playbacks, their schemes, their personnel everything and their is never any consistency. Now look at teams like the Steelers, Patriots, Packers, Broncos, even the Ravens. They all possess a high level quarterback(though many debate Flacco), and most importantly they rarely go through change. They implemented their systems, their coaches, their front office and they have not changed.
Quote:Remember when Fred Taylor said the preparation and game planning/game film were much more integrated in NE than Jville? He was amazed with that organization.
Exactly.
Corey Dillon said basically the same thing about the difference between the Pats organization and the Bengals,,
Moss did too I believe.
Some organizations are top notch,, much better than others. That's just the way it is.
Quote:^They haven't won in 10 years. That's a bad example. Remember when Fred Taylor said the preparation and game planning/game film were much more integrated in NE than Jville? He was amazed with that organization.
Some coaches throw the challenge flag when the rule states they can't, resulting in them getting a penalty. Some players admit to not knowing the OT rules.
The Patriots, on the other hand, go through the rule book so they can use an obscure rule about declaring eligible and use it to their advantage. Yeah, give me the 2nd one.
Quote:I think what the Patriots and other consistently top teams teach us is how important 2 things are: stability and a high level quarterback.
I'd go one further: Stability AT QB.
You don't need a great one to be a great team, but you sure as hell can't have a bad one and win.
The Jags were a pretty good team with Brunell, an OK one with Leftwich and Garrard, and outright sucked with Henne/Gabbert/Bortles. Cleveland is in the same boat, as are the Raiders (post-Gannon), St. Louis (post-Warner), Tampa, and the NY Jets. Buffalo managed an OK season with a great defense, but they're still looking for the answer since Reich.
Every playoff team this year had a fixture at QB except Arizona - and we all know how that turned out for them.
I agree with a lot of what's been said already, but I would add, what I saw in the Super Bowl was, there is no unbeatable style of defense or offense. It's all about matchups. Seattle brought the big tall CBs into vogue, but New England countered with small quick WRs.
There's no style that can't be beaten with the right matchups.
Quote:I agree with a lot of what's been said already, but I would add, what I saw in the Super Bowl was, there is no unbeatable style of defense or offense. It's all about matchups. Seattle brought the big tall CBs into vogue, but New England countered with small quick WRs.
There's no style that can't be beaten with the right matchups.
Exactly. THis is why I think it's absurd that the Brady haters say he just "dinked/dunked" the whole game. Saying he can't throw the long ball. He shredded that defense with the match ups. He understood the defense they were running, and he took advantage. Hell, they didn't even stop Brady in the 4th quarter.
I still remember when Brady "dinked and dunked" us in the 07 divisional round to a tune of 26/28 completions... But hey, at least we stopped Moss right?
Quote:I agree with a lot of what's been said already, but I would add, what I saw in the Super Bowl was, there is no unbeatable style of defense or offense. It's all about matchups. Seattle brought the big tall CBs into vogue, but New England countered with small quick WRs.
There's no style that can't be beaten with the right matchups.
The "gates" not withstanding, coaching and preparation has a lot to do with the Pats success (that and an elite QB). Although this video is a few years old, it offers a pretty good representation of how Belichick runs the team, or at least how he ran it in 2009. I got a completely different perspective and newfound respect for him after watching. Still can't stand the pats, though.
http://www.nfl.com/videos/a-football-lif...-Belichick