Quote:Poser? Lol. Tell me you wouldn't take him on your Bills team.
To the topic at hand... You can call the Jags anything you like if they make the Superbowl. Thugs, Frugs, The Fugs, Lugs, Mugs, Pugs, Punks, Lunks, Jags, Hags, Lags, [bad word removed], Cads.
Call em what you want...if they can get to the big show.
With Sherman fingering the two four after they scored and showing his [ bad word removed ] ... I wish they panned back to him after the INT.
I'd rather take Marino, Kelly, Elway, Aikman, Montana etc. back in their days. Brady and most of today's NFL QB are a bunch of prima donnas whose stats are artificially inflated by new rules to make the passing game easier.
The closest QB today playing I'd consider most like the old school QBs is Ben Roethlisberger. If Big Ben wasn't a scumbag rapist, I'd rather have him over Brady. To me, he plays football the way it was meant to be played.
Quote:I'd rather take Marino, Kelly, Elway, Aikman, Montana etc. back in their days. Brady and most of today's NFL QB are a bunch of prima donnas whose stats are artificially inflated by new rules to make the passing game easier.
The closest QB today playing I'd consider most like the old school QBs is Ben Roethlisberger. If Big Ben wasn't a scumbag rapist, I'd rather have him over Brady. To me, he plays football the way it was meant to be played.
Lol, please stop. You sound really bitter.
Quote:Of course it does.
Deflategate will now mysteriously go away. They'll cite that they found no evidence of tampered balls, and look! The Patriots won a super bowl where the balls were closely watched! Totally legit! Even people on this board said as much. It's what the NFL wants people to think. Any investigation the NFL does is basically the police investigating the police. It's just like with the Ray Rice video.
Even if they were found guilty... the NFL would have done very little to them. They were caught spying on other teams, and all they got was a slap on the wrist. Sean Payton was suspended for a year just for not stopping Bountygate. While Bill Belichick was only fined for his role in Spygate. Ignorance is apparently only 'not an excuse' if you are Sean Payton.
I wouldn't say the NFL is necessarily rigged. I will however say that the NFL got their preferred outcome. Tom Brady is a product they can sell. Russell Wilson? Not so much. More and more rules are made to protect the QB (unless they're a Jaguar, in which case roughing the passer requires at least a pitchfork)
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Quote:I'd rather take Marino, Kelly, Elway, Aikman, Montana etc. back in their days. Brady and most of today's NFL QB are a bunch of prima donnas whose stats are artificially inflated by new rules to make the passing game easier.
The closest QB today playing I'd consider most like the old school QBs is Ben Roethlisberger. If Big Ben wasn't a scumbag rapist, I'd rather have him over Brady. To me, he plays football the way it was meant to be played.
YES!!! Thats what Ive been saying. The rules were changed to push the Mannings and Bradys of the world. These guys are paper champs and have paper stats.
2003 is when it all started going downhill. New rules went into place to protect the QB and help the passing game. It was all about the NFL protecting certain players who also happened to make them a lot of $$$.
Anyone who argues otherwise is simply naive.
Quote:2003 is when it all started going downhill. New rules went into place to protect the QB and help the passing game. It was all about the NFL protecting certain players who also happened to make them a lot of $$$.
Anyone who argues otherwise is simply naive.
I agree. We are seeing an ugly culmination of all of these $$ driven rules changes and I don't like what it's doing to the game. At all.
Though I still respect Brady's talent - even if he gripes too much.
Quote:I agree. We are seeing an ugly culmination of all of these $$ driven rules changes and I don't like what it's doing to the game. At all.
Though I still respect Brady's talent - even if he gripes too much.
I know its all about evolution. I understand changing the game for safety. But all the defensive rules in place benefits nothing but the offensive side of the ball. How many rules have been put in place over the last 3 or 4 years to benefit the defense.
Quote:I agree. We are seeing an ugly culmination of all of these $$ driven rules changes and I don't like what it's doing to the game. At all.
Though I still respect Brady's talent - even if he gripes too much.
Quote:I agree. We are seeing an ugly culmination of all of these $$ driven rules changes and I don't like what it's doing to the game. At all.
Though I still respect Brady's talent - even if he gripes too much.
That's a valid opinion about Brady. I just don't share it.
Personally, I don't like watching him. His game is a lot more one dimensional than many other QBs. 99% of the time, he takes 5 steps back and throws a short, dinky pass. Too many times have I seen him get bumped by a defensive player and whine to the ref who then throws a flag and then watching him clap his hands and laugh about it. To me, that's not football.
Quote:That's a valid opinion about Brady. I just don't share it.
Personally, I don't like watching him. His game is a lot more one dimensional than many other QBs. 99% of the time, he takes 5 steps back and throws a short, dinky pass. Too many times have I seen him get bumped by a defensive player and whine to the ref who then throws a flag and then watching him clap his hands and laugh about it. To me, that's not football.
I'm sure him dominating your division since his arrival has nothing to do with your opinion right? Its fine. We get it. We still feel the same way about Manning.
Quote:That's a valid opinion about Brady. I just don't share it.
Personally, I don't like watching him. His game is a lot more one dimensional than many other QBs. 99% of the time, he takes 5 steps back and throws a short, dinky pass. Too many times have I seen him get bumped by a defensive player and whine to the ref who then throws a flag and then watching him clap his hands and laugh about it. To me, that's not football.
I don't let recent history color my take on his "dinky" passes or one dimensional play. He spent plenty of seasons throwing downfield more when he had the receivers and time from the line to do so. This SB game and a fair amount of this season were a different story. What do you expect when your primary receivers are guys like Edelman/Amendola?
Listen - I don't like the guy. He's knocked my team out of the playoffs repeatedly. I just have respect for his ability. Your opinion is valid as well and I know many who share it. The whining to the ref stuff irks me equally, BTW.
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http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/thug?s=t
<div><span><span>"1</span></span><span> a cruel or vicious ruffian, robber, or murderer. </span>
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A word usually described to someone who attacks another over a few harsh words. Are we going to argue semantics now? I would rather not.
Quote:I'm sure him dominating your division since his arrival has nothing to do with your opinion right? Its fine. We get it. We still feel the same way about Manning.
I don't like the Patriots* or Brady, but that's only a part of it. I truly don't like how he plays... especially the whining to the refs.
My theory is you can take a great QB and put them in a different era and they would still be successful. Hypothetically, if you take someone like Marino (in his prime) and he were magically playing today, he would be utterly dominant. His stats would be better than Peyton, Brees, or Brady's. On the other hand, I don't think Brady would be very successful if he were playing back in Marino's era. They played by very different rules.
Quote:I know its all about evolution. I understand changing the game for safety. But all the defensive rules in place benefits nothing but the offensive side of the ball. How many rules have been put in place over the last 3 or 4 years to benefit the defense.
Yep. These changes are all money and ratings driven. The Super Bowl has become big business. You can see what happened to it's ratings after the rule change:
http://www.statista.com/statistics/21652...iewership/
I don't think that's coincidental.
Quote:I don't like the Patriots* or Brady, but that's only a part of it. I truly don't like how he plays... especially the whining to the refs.
My theory is you can take a great QB and put them in a different era and they would still be successful. Hypothetically, if you take someone like Marino (in his prime) and he were magically playing today, he would be utterly dominant. His stats would be better than Peyton, Brees, or Brady's. On the other hand, I don't think Brady would be very successful if he were playing back in Marino's era. They played by very different rules.
I do agree about this. It's why the sudden comparisons to Montana sicken me.
Quote:A word usually described to someone who attacks another over a few harsh words. Are we going to argue semantics now? I would rather not.
You just said their behavior matches the definition of thug.
"Because thug is by definition how they acted?"
http://jungle.jaguars.com/index.php?/top.../?p=431288
I provided the dictionary.com definition of thug and it didn't match their behavior.
Now you don't want to argue semantics?!?
Either their behavior matched the definition of thug or it doesn't.
Now you offer the above operational (read:made up) definition of thug.
If someone walked up to you and your wife (assuming, for argument's sake, you are married), and called her a "[BLEEP]" and said what kind of filthy things he was going to do to her and dared you to do something...are you saying you would not respond physically?
You would not be, an any way, angered? You wouldn't respond in kind with words intended to provoke?
Quote:Gronk gave someone a cheap shot in the back of the head. Irvin then threw a punch at him. Very justified, IMO.
That was WELLLLLLL after the play. Can you read? Why are they back there? Because Gronk was pushed 5 yards back after the play ended, because he hit Irvin earlier than that clip, because 95 hit Gronk, because the Seahawks are trying to play a kneel down like they haven't already lost the game. Look at a video that shows from the end of the play.
http://www.si.com/nfl/2015/02/01/super-b...s-seahawks
It could have stopped multiple times but emotions were high. I understand that a lot of people hate that the Pats won but to take a 3 second clip 5 seconds after a play ended and use it to try and create a distorted image of what happened is pathetic and weak.
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