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<p style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:'Helvetica Neue', HelveticaNeue, helvetica, arial, sans-serif;font-size:15.1999998092651px;">"Oklahoma police released a video Friday from the body camera of a cop who fatally shot a suspect earlier this month.

<p style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:'Helvetica Neue', HelveticaNeue, helvetica, arial, sans-serif;font-size:15.1999998092651px;">Muskogee Officer Chansey McMillin, responding to a domestic abuse complaint, approached 21-year-old Terrance Walker outside the Old Agency Baptist Church on Jan. 17, according to local media."

<p style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:'Helvetica Neue', HelveticaNeue, helvetica, arial, sans-serif;font-size:15.1999998092651px;">I'm glad they are wearing body cameras now. There's a cop who goes to my church and sometimes he's in full uniform. Last Sunday as I was walking by him a kid asked him what was on his uniform and he showed him the body camera on his chest. The kid asked why he needed one.... Sadly, the kid is too young to understand the real reason, but the cop did the best he could. 

<p style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:'Helvetica Neue', HelveticaNeue, helvetica, arial, sans-serif;font-size:15.1999998092651px;">It's telling that the mother of this dead man doesn't want to see footage because she "wants to remember him like I know him to be". Let me stop here and say I don't think any parent should want to watch their child be killed. That's not what I'm getting at. What I mean is this woman wants to remember her son, a domestic violence perpetrator who was threatening his ex-girlfriend saying he "had a bullet with her name on it". I imagine this is not the first time this fellow had been in trouble just by that statement.

<p style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:'Helvetica Neue', HelveticaNeue, helvetica, arial, sans-serif;font-size:15.1999998092651px;">And that is what is so wrong in this country. None of the families of these people who end up this way want to see their kid for who they really are. It's like they live in this fairytale land where their kid(s) is perfect and a good boy/girl and never does anything wrong. I call bullcrap. If people would actually see this stuff for what it is then maybe change could happen. But no one wants to take responsibility. It's sad to me that this stuff happens. That people are killed, justified or not, because people don't want to see the world around them for what it really is.

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So your problem is with the mother choosing to remember her dead son for the good parts (like most people do when a loved one dies) and not with the police officer shooting a man that's running away and who is no way presenting an clear and immediate threat?

Quote:So your problem is with the mother choosing to remember her dead son for the good parts (like most people do when a loved one dies) and not with the police officer shooting a man that's running away and who is no way presenting an clear and immediate threat?

 

So a man who's running away, and grabs his gun (and apparently points it at the officer) is no clear and immediate threat?

Quote:So your problem is with the mother choosing to remember her dead son for the good parts (like most people do when a loved one dies) and not with the police officer shooting a man that's running away and who is no way presenting an clear and immediate threat?

Did you even watch the video?

Quote:So a man who's running away, and grabs his gun (and apparently points it at the officer) is no clear and immediate threat?

I did not see that. I retract my earlier statement.

Quote:I did not see that. I retract my earlier statement.

 

Why would you make the statement in the first place without seeing the footage? Agenda much?

Quote:Why would you make the statement in the first place without seeing the footage? Agenda much?

I watched the video right up until the first time they cut away from the footage. I assumed they weren't going to be showing any more and the rest of the report would just be talking about related stuff like the reaction to the incident. 

Quote:...and not with the police officer shooting a man that's running away and who is no way presenting an clear and immediate threat?

 

 

Quote:I did not see that. I retract my earlier statement.

 

I'd just like to point out that you made an uninformed comment, and you have got to be one of the most stringent posters when you address others that make the same mistake. 

As for the OP's point, I don't think the Mother seeing her son for who he is would change him. I don't blame the parents for not wanting to see their child like that, at least they're not in the streets trying to rise trouble over what sounds like a clean shooting. 

 

Bad people are going to do bad things, it's why we need some sort of law enforcement and it's why people should be able to defend themselves at all times. A mother watching the video of their son being killed doesn't change any of that. Now we could question how this man might have been raised and why he became a bad person? That would require a deeper look into the story however. 

Quote:As for the OP's point, I don't think the Mother seeing her son for who he is would change him. I don't blame the parents for not wanting to see their child like that, at least they're not in the streets trying to rise trouble over what sounds like a clean shooting. 

 

Bad people are going to do bad things, it's why we need some sort of law enforcement and it's why people should be able to defend themselves at all times. A mother watching the video of their son being killed doesn't change any of that. Now we could question how this man might have been raised and why he became a bad person?
That would require a deeper look into the story however. 

That's kind of what I was getting at. 

 

A lot of these folks look the other way when bad habits are being taught at an early age because they don't want to think of their kid as being bad, or maybe they're too busy trying to scrape a living together to notice or be bothered. This behavior is tolerated and looked over and when the kid gets shot and/or killed for breaking the law it's all about the kid "never did anything wrong" a la Michael Brown. 

 

It's the same with indulging your kid's every whim and not controlling the behavior that comes along with it, then wondering why they grew up to be selfish and have an entitlement attitude. 

 

The majority of how a young adult turns out is based on the environment in which they were raised. Not always, but most of the time. 

I guess it aggravates me that people stick their heads in the sand when it comes to the behavior of their kid and when everything goes haywire they claim their kid never did anything wrong, fueling the flames for the likes of Sharpton and Jackson who stirs up the media and the public and people start rioting and looting and intruding on folks who are out to eat at a restaurant minding their own business.

 

I'm sorry lady, but you're kid was not a nice, smart boy. He was a street thug who has been arrested and in jail for -enter crime here-. I'm sorry he's dead but that's on him for breaking the law and running from a police officer (or resisting arrest or whatever). Not on the cop who was trying to do his/her job.

 

I don't mean to sound callous but it is what it is. These kids are screwed from the outset because they have no one teaching them how to live the right way. It's a generational thing and many of them don't see that they do any wrong because they don't know a different way or they think it's the only way. All they know is they get in trouble because the police 'hates them'. 

Quote:That's kind of what I was getting at. 

 

A lot of these folks look the other way when bad habits are being taught at an early age because they don't want to think of their kid as being bad, or maybe they're too busy trying to scrape a living together to notice or be bothered. This behavior is tolerated and looked over and when the kid gets shot and/or killed for breaking the law it's all about the kid "never did anything wrong" a la Michael Brown. 

 

It's the same with indulging your kid's every whim and not controlling the behavior that comes along with it, then wondering why they grew up to be selfish and have an entitlement attitude. 

 

The majority of how a young adult turns out is based on the environment in which they were raised. Not always, but most of the time. 

 

Gotcha, absolutely its an environment that creates problems. 

 

I'm going to get blasted for this but oh well, that environment is a direct result of the welfare state. Let me clarify, In no way am I saying everyone or even the majority of people on welfare are bad people raising bad kids. What I am saying is the existence of a program where the state replaces the father in a home, creates the conditions for a troubled upbringing. 

I saw this posted on Facebook and as usual the comments were toxic.  It shocks me that people can still see this video and somehow put a racial connotation to it.  The guy obviously was grabbing for his gun and then they obviously found the gun laying next to him, but after reading those comments you would have thought the kid was walking down the road and the officer shot him in the back.

 

Our country has taken a huge (HUGE) step back.

Quote:Our country has taken a huge (HUGE) step back.

 

Thanks Obama?