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Quote:Not that I expect anyone to be as nerdy as I, but here is a U.S. Debt simulator. Try your hand at attempting to balance or stabilize debt to GDP. Not easy and some tough choices while adjusting amounts.

 

http://crfb.org/stabilizethedebt/

 

 

Really cool man thanks for the ink!

Quote:Phase it out and give me in my working 30's a chance to opt out. If I go broke it's my fault and I'll die off early. 

 

The problem with Social Security is that it is going to run out of money if we don't do something.  The problem with letting people opt out is that it will cause the program to run out of money even sooner.   

Quote:The problem with Social Security is that it is going to run out of money if we don't do something.  The problem with letting people opt out is that it will cause the program to run out of money even sooner.   

 

How about just extend the SS retirement age a few years for anyone under 40?

 

Nope, the left will say were taking away grannies SS and it's un-American and were killing everyone and AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

Quote:How about just extend the SS retirement age a few years for anyone under 40?

 

Nope, the left will say were taking away grannies SS and it's un-American and were killing everyone and AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

That doesn't fix the actual problem. If the federal government would stop treating it like a general slush fund it would be fine. At one point, I think Bush 1, there was over a $200 billion surplus. The feds have also allowed disability payments to come from the same account and those have been on the rise. Adjusting the age like has been done before is just kicking the can down the road.

Quote:How about just extend the SS retirement age a few years for anyone under 40?

 

 

 

It has to be something that includes that. 

Quote:The problem with Social Security is that it is going to run out of money if we don't do something. The problem with letting people opt out is that it will cause the program to run out of money even sooner.

Just like every other Ponzi scheme that last guy really gets it in the shorts.

Quote:How about just extend the SS retirement age a few years for anyone under 40?


Nope, the left will say were taking away grannies SS and it's un-American and were killing everyone and AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

Yeah, you kids should work longer to pay for my retirement. Get to work you lazy zygotes!

Quote:How about just extend the SS retirement age a few years for anyone under 40?


Nope, the left will say were taking away grannies SS and it's un-American and were killing everyone and AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

I'm for extending the age a little but it isn't fair if someone who has been working for 44 years and gets sick and dies at 60 gets nothing. I think in a case like that, beneficiaries should benefit from part of their SS. Money you are entitled to shouldn't just go back into the pot.

Quote:I'm for extending the age a little but it isn't fair if someone who has been working for 44 years and gets sick and dies at 60 gets nothing. I think in a case like that, beneficiaries should benefit from part of their SS. Money you are entitled to shouldn't just go back into the pot.

 

It's not your money, it's Uncle Sam's. He just gifts it to you if he feels like it.

Quote:It's not your money, it's Uncle Sam's. He just gifts it to you if he feels like it.

I count money that I earn and is taken away still as MY money, lol.

Quote:I count money that I earn and is taken away still as MY money, lol.

 

Welp, good luck spending it.

Resign?

Quote:Resign?

 

Presidents are elected, so there's no contract. We'll reELECT him in 4 years.

If the economy booms and we aren't toppling governments with no plan of what to do afterwards (i.e. Libya, Iraq), I will count Trump as having a good run.

Quote:If the economy booms and we aren't toppling governments with no plan of what to do afterwards (i.e. Libya, Iraq), I will count Trump as having a good run.

There was a plan for Iraq. We didn't see it through.

Quote:There was a plan for Iraq. We didn't see it through.

Really.. Cheney's cronies all got contracts off the government teat. Mission Accomplished.

Quote:If the economy booms and we aren't toppling governments with no plan of what to do afterwards (i.e. Libya, Iraq), I will count Trump as having a good run.

We can make the economy boom by going deeper into debt. I don't want that.

Quote:We can make the economy boom by going deeper into debt. I don't want that.

I didn't get into more detail but I am definitely against accruing more debt. Spending uncontrollably to have short term economic success is no different than just maxing out a credit card and not anticipating having to pay it off.

Quote:Really.. Cheney's cronies all got contracts off the government teat. Mission Accomplished.

 

Here's an image from the past. I'll let you decide what is extraordinary about it:

 

How can Trump be a great President?


Step aside and let Pence run the show for the next four years.