Apparently the Cowboys have a standing offer on the table of 4 years - 16 Million or 4 Mil per season, which is the ceiling figure offered to Chris Johnson of the Jets.
all right mr big spender, do your thang
Caldwell better get on it. We can let Slowby go, and keep DRob and Todman.
Buyer Beware!!!
DeMarco Murray has only been able to stay healthy for one of his first four seasons.
Can the Jags afford to pay someone 5 to 6 Mil per season to go onto IR?
Quote:Buyer Beware!!!
DeMarco Murray has only been able to stay healthy for one of his first four seasons.
Can the Jags afford to pay someone 5 to 6 Mil per season to go onto IR?
Yes we actually can with cap room we could front load it for the first 2 years which would make him cheap to cut yr 3 if it hasn't worked out
Is it guaranteed? If so thats about average on guaranteed money. AP, McCoy, Foster, Lynch are all around $4mil a year guaranteed. Granted they have some big bonuses added in which would make sense to add for Murray. But that's what a rb is worth now....
Quote:Buyer Beware!!!
DeMarco Murray has only been able to stay healthy for one of his first four seasons.
Can the Jags afford to pay someone 5 to 6 Mil per season to go onto IR?
Who cares if he's on the IR!?!? At least the Jags signed a guy with a name fans recognize!!!
/sarcasm
Quote:Is it guaranteed? If so thats about average on guaranteed money. AP, McCoy, Foster, Lynch are all around $4mil a year guaranteed. Granted they have some big bonuses added in which would make sense to add for Murray. But that's what a rb is worth now....
Exactly. The offer they're reportedly throwing out there seems to be the market value today.
Barry Sanders wouldn't look good behind our line.
Quote:Barry Sanders wouldn't look good behind our line.
Yeah, but Murray is WAY better than any RB we have. He stayed healthy this year, I don't know why people are saying buyer beware. We need all the help we can get.
The team that signs him will give him at least 5 million a year.
Quote:Yeah, but Murray is WAY better than any RB we have. He stayed healthy this year, I don't know why people are saying buyer beware. We need all the help we can get.
I am more of a believer that the line makes the RB. I am not opposed to getting him for the right price, but we will see.
Players like Murray don't make it to FA, unless there are extenuating circumstances. It could be that the Randle kid behind Murray is just as good, or it could be...just maybe...that the Cowboy's line is so freaking good that any halfway decent back looks pro bowl quality behind them.
The guy has been hurt more often than he's not, and now he has a career year in a contract year (red flag) all the while totaling a giant workload of 392 carries and almost 450 touches last season.
Sorry, but I'd prefer spending the money it would take to sign Murray used smartly, elsewhere.
Its a deep draft for RB this season, and the Jags can adequately fill that position with a pick at that time and probably a 2nd or 3rd day pick at that.
Quote:The guy has been hurt more often than he's not, and now he has a career year in a contract year (red flag) all the while totaling a giant workload of 392 carries and almost 450 touches last season.
Sorry, but I'd prefer spending the money it would take to sign Murray used smartly, elsewhere.
Its a deep draft for RB this season, and the Jags can adequately fill that position with a pick at that time and probably a 2nd or 3rd day pick at that.
All of this
Ap makes about 12m a year on his current deal, but I do have to wonder if he will be back in Minnesota this year. The fiasco with the child beating allegations may have irreparably severed his connection to that team.
As for other top flight running backs LeSean McCoy's deal averages about 9m a season, Arian Foster, 8.7m, Beast Mode 7.5m, Jamaal Charles 6.9m.
Clearly DeMarco Murray is looking to cash in on his one year of success. Personally I think it would be a mistake to reach for this guy and pay him a ton of dough. My main concern with signing him is his lackadaisical approach to ball security. He fumbles all the time. To me that is a bad sign.
There are a lot of free agent running backs that the Jags could look at. Justin Forsett of the Ravens, Stevan Ridley of the Patriots, Frank Gore of the 49ers (getting old though), the aforementioned Demarco Murray, etc.
Forsett is the one I would target if I were in the Jags front office. Obviously the Ravens are going to have first crack at getting a deal done, but the guy is coming off a strong season and might be had in that 6 million dollar range vs Murray who is probably looking for 8-9 million a year (which he won't get - as rb's are no longer considered a premium commodity).
Look, unless the team gets an OC committed to RUNNING THE BALL in a PASS HAPPY NFL, getting a prime RB makes absolutely NO SENSE.
If Callahan is signed, then LOOK for a commitment to upgrading the RB position.
My take is that GUS WANTS to RUN THE BALL MORE that we did this past year.
Quote:Ap makes about 12m a year on his current deal, but I do have to wonder if he will be back in Minnesota this year. The fiasco with the child beating allegations may have irreparably severed his connection to that team.
As for other top flight running backs LeSean McCoy's deal averages about 9m a season, Arian Foster, 8.7m, Beast Mode 7.5m, Jamaal Charles 6.9m.
Clearly DeMarco Murray is looking to cash in on his one year of success. Personally I think it would be a mistake to reach for this guy and pay him a ton of dough. My main concern with signing him is his lackadaisical approach to ball security. He fumbles all the time. To me that is a bad sign.
There are a lot of free agent running backs that the Jags could look at. Justin Forsett of the Ravens, Stevan Ridley of the Patriots, Frank Gore of the 49ers (getting old though), the aforementioned Demarco Murray, etc.
Forsett is the one I would target if I were in the Jags front office. Obviously the Ravens are going to have first crack at getting a deal done, but the guy is coming off a strong season and might be had in that 6 million dollar range vs Murray who is probably looking for 8-9 million a year (which he won't get - as rb's are no longer considered a premium commodity).
Those numbers are not guaranteed. Thats with bonuses. All of those guys make about $4mil a year in guaranteed money. Which if thats what they've offered Murray, is fair. I think he's more concerned the offer doesnt include bonuses to make that $7-8 million a year.
I don't know where you are getting your information, but it is incorrect.
AP's base salary - 11.75m in 2014. Guaranteed. + other misc. bonuses
LeSean McCoy 7.65 million in guaranteed money. And he received a guaranteed 1.7 million dollar signing bonus + o.m.b..
Arian Foster - 5.75 million base salary, 2.5m pro rated signing bonus guaranteed, + o.m.b.
Marshawn Lynch 6.0 million base salary, 1.5m signing bonus + o.m.b.
Jamaal Charles - 4.1 base salary, 2.5 million roster bonus, 1.0 million signing bonus + o.m.b.
You discount the bonuses, yet those are generally the guaranteed portion of contracts. You will not be able to sign him for 4 million a season.
Is what the cowboys offered Murray fair? 4 years, 16 million. Not in my opinion. It would be unrealistic to think you could sweeten the pot a little bit in hopes of signing him. I would wager that he will want somewhere in the neighborhood of a 7.5m annual average salary over a 4-5 year deal.
However, and this is conjecture on my part, a larger upfront signing bonus pro-rated over a 5 year period could get the job done with a lower base salary.