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He also had a number one draft pick of a brother to watch train and can provide insight and experience. And let's not forget, it's based on Jordan Palmer's assistance that people started to say based on the improvement shown, that if he's improved that much with all the intangibles and playmaking ability in the clutch that he could be not just the first QB picked but first overall.

Those who can, do. Those who can't, teach.

Well the networks seem to think Phil Simms and Trent Dilfer are experts and they both sucked.   

Palmers footwork is very good. 

Quote:Well the networks seem to think Phil Simms and Trent Dilfer are experts and they both sucked.   

actually phil simms and trent dilfer think they are experts and the networks took their word on it

Quote:Well the networks seem to think Phil Simms and Trent Dilfer are experts and they both sucked.

Phil Simms sucked? Lmao.

I think Bortles is comfortable having worked with Palmer leading up to the draft. Seeing how Palmer and Bortles' time together helped him be the first QB drafted I think it was somewhat successful.


From my understanding Palmer is an up and comer in the QB coach business as well so its not like Bortles is just working with a Joe Shmoe.


Whatever Blake is more comfortable with and feels will help him improve the most is good by me.

Anecdotal evidence incoming:

 

Back in HS, my friends and I were all volleyball players. We were all decent to very good and most of us were extremely athletic (most of us played 2 sports...generally basketball, soccer or ran track). Now there was one among us who was nowhere near as athletically gifted as the rest of us, he was slow, not very strong and couldn't jump to save his life (which is very important in volleyball for hitting in case you were unaware...lol) but was more of a tactician type. Thank God he was a setter (floor QB). He never wowed you on the stat sheets or made any spectacular plays, he was just there and didn't screw up very often and that was OK.

 

Fast forward twenty some odd years. He is a extremely successful DII volleyball coach today. The rest of us all gave it a shot with varying levels of success, mostly in high school but as it turns out, the "worst" player out of all 8 of us ended up being by far, the best coach.

 

I see that here and have no problem with it.

Quote:Phil Simms sucked? [BAD WORD REMOVED].

With 199 TDs in 14 seasons and a 55% career completion % I'd say he sucked.  Definitely benefited by playing with those great defenses led by LT.

This thread is dumb. He works with him because he works with him. It's not like he ignores his QB coach to go hang out with Jordan Palmer.


Please stop suggesting he goes to work with so-and-so elite QB. Players don't waste valuable time in the offseason training someone else.

Quote:Blake worked with Palmer before the draft and is planning on working with him during this off-season. Palmer is a journeyman/practice squad QB and thats the guy Blake trusts to teach him how to be a QB in the offseason? It honestly makes no sense.

 

That's like saying Tommy LaSorda was never a good baseball player, so he couldn't be a good coach.   Was Tom Coughlin an NFL player?   Was Bill Belichick?  

 

Jordan Palmer is an offseason coach.   He's the guy who worked with Blake last offseason leading up to the draft.   

Quote:Blake worked with Palmer before the draft and is planning on working with him during this off-season. Palmer is a journeyman/practice squad QB and thats the guy Blake trusts to teach him how to be a QB in the offseason? It honestly makes no sense.

 

Palmer worked with Blake to prepare him for the draft. The result of that was a guy who had much better mechanics and zip on his throws during his pro-day. Given what we saw from Blake early this year on how good he can be with proper mechanics, why wouldn't you want him spending an entire off-season with Palmer to correct his mechanics again?

Quote:With 199 TDs in 14 seasons and a 55% career completion % I'd say he sucked. Definitely benefited by playing with those great defenses led by LT.

have you looked at other qbs in that era? That was phenomenal then.

Quote:Those who can, do. Those who can't, teach.

Jim Harbaugh would disagree. He was a pretty good QB for a long time, then blew that axiom out of the water.

"Jordan Palmer was a journeyman QB scrub" 

 

followed by

 

"Better than Chad Henne I guess"

 

You don't need to be a good player to be a good coach.

Quote:You don't need to be a good player to be a good coach.

 

This is not a hard topic to grasp folks. 

 

I guess people shouldnt practice with Harbaugh (sp?) either because he wasnt a HOF QB

Quote:Because Palmer is a veteran NFL QB who may not have the talent to be a pro starter, but he's definitely been there and done that, and can help Bortles improve. Simple as that.

 

Also, Peyton Manning was booked.

exactly...

Quote:Jim Harbaugh would disagree. He was a pretty good QB for a long time, then blew that axiom out of the water.

So when he could, he did, and when he couldn't any more, he went with teaching?

Quote:Anecdotal evidence incoming:

 

Back in HS, my friends and I were all volleyball players. We were all decent to very good and most of us were extremely athletic (most of us played 2 sports...generally basketball, soccer or ran track). Now there was one among us who was nowhere near as athletically gifted as the rest of us, he was slow, not very strong and couldn't jump to save his life (which is very important in volleyball for hitting in case you were unaware...lol) but was more of a tactician type. Thank God he was a setter (floor QB). He never wowed you on the stat sheets or made any spectacular plays, he was just there and didn't screw up very often and that was OK.

 

Fast forward twenty some odd years. He is a extremely successful DII volleyball coach today. The rest of us all gave it a shot with varying levels of success, mostly in high school but as it turns out, the "worst" player out of all 8 of us ended up being by far, the best coach.

 

I see that here and have no problem with it.

 

First of all, gotta get this out of the way:  Cool story, bro.   :thumbsup:

 

But I think you're right, often those that are less gifted athletically learn the fundamentals better, because that is the only way they can compete.  I'm pretty sure Belicheat was not a very good footballer.  He sure does know how to coach a football team.

 

Another example is our own Jerry Sullivan.  I think it's Universally accepted he's a great WR's coach...

 

His Wiki has no info on his playing career.  And from jags.com, "A native of Miami, Sullivan played quarterback at Miami Jackson High School.  He earned a scholarship to Florida State and later transferred to Delta State. "

 

So it can be defended that J.Palmer can be a very good mentor.  Not to mention, BB5's footwork and throwing accuracy was much stronger in the pre-season and early games, and then fell off a cliff after the bye.  Another reason I thought Fish was a bad OC.  He allowed BB5's mechanics to deteriorate over the course of the season.

 

But at any rate, at this point, there's no reason to be concerned with who BB5 is working out with in the offseason.  Unless all of a sudden he's taking selfies with Johnny Alcohol...