Quote:Or a better playing surface? Not to make excuses of course.
I read Houston's field has a lot of seams were pieces of sod meet and Clowney got hurt by stepping on one of them. Maybe the NFL should ban retracting fields that spend most of the week in parking lots.
Quote:Hopefully he doesn't end up as the next Courtney Brown...
Hopefully he DOES.
I liked him coming out of South Carolina. He had produced against top notch competition and I thought he had tremendous athetic ability.
Now that he's a Texan...I do not want him to succeed as a player.
Quote:They'd be lying if they were to claim they wouldn't.
Clowney's 2013 SC season wasn't an illusion, it's what they should have expected.
What about his 2012 season where he had double digit sacks?
Would anyone here be interested in trading our top 5 pick this year for Clowney?
Quote:What about it?
Well you indicate his 2013 season was not an illusion.
His 2012 season was not an illusion, either.
Which one wins out and why?
Quote:Well you indicate his 2013 season was not an illusion.
His 2012 season was not an illusion, either.
Which one wins out and why?
The 2013 one does.
Clowney is the classic Albert Haynesworth type of player. Once he's in position to cash in he's biding his time until it's time for his next contract year.
2012 he got the hype, 2013 was all about coasting through the season to get to the pay day.
Quote:Well you indicate his 2013 season was not an illusion.
His 2012 season was not an illusion, either.
Which one wins out and why?
Somewhere in between. He doesn't have the work ethic. He has the athletic ability but isn't really open to learning technique. He also seems to always be injured.
Hate to root against guys so hard, but division rivals tend to make you do that. Glad they picked this guy.
Quote:If Houston were allowed a do-over at the end of the season and given the right to swap Clowney with any other player drafted last year, would they do it? And if so, who would they swap? Has to be Bortles, Mack, Watkins or Evans right?
Do you think the Giants would take someone other than OBJ? The only difference between the two is that OBJ was able to come back from his injury & contribute. Clowney hasn't & that has nothing to do with any of the pre-draft rumors. That has to do with our inept medical staff which has screwed us year after year. Hopefully there will be some changes made in that department.
If they had to do it over again, I don't think they would have chosen differently in the draft. Instead, they would have addressed his knee injury differently. Right now, we just have to hope there was no irreversible damage trying to get him on the field.
Quote:Do you think the Giants would take someone other than OBJ? The only difference between the two is that OBJ was able to come back from his injury & contribute. Clowney hasn't & that has nothing to do with any of the pre-draft rumors. That has to do with our inept medical staff which has screwed us year after year. Hopefully there will be some changes made in that department.
If they had to do it over again, I don't think they would have chosen differently in the draft. Instead, they would have addressed his knee injury differently. Right now, we just have to hope there was no irreversible damage trying to get him on the field.
I am no medical doctor and I don't know what the Houston doctors did to diagnose or treat his injury, and whether or not their course of treatment met the professional standards of care, so I can't really question their competence.
I am more concerned about the turf.
Over all of these years, I didn't know until this year that the players held the Reliant Stadium turf in such contempt.
How long has this been an issue, and why hasn't it been addressed?
Quote:Do you think the Giants would take someone other than OBJ? The only difference between the two is that OBJ was able to come back from his injury & contribute. Clowney hasn't & that has nothing to do with any of the pre-draft rumors. That has to do with our inept medical staff which has screwed us year after year. Hopefully there will be some changes made in that department.
If they had to do it over again, I don't think they would have chosen differently in the draft. Instead, they would have addressed his knee injury differently. Right now, we just have to hope there was no irreversible damage trying to get him on the field.
It is ok to say they might take someone else. We've been saying that here since 2003.
It's true the field is crap. It is made up of thousands of trays of grass about 4ft x 4ft and put together in mosaic form. Back in August our field crew was shipped to Houston to try to get the field ready for an exhibition game after their field crew manager quit at a moment's notice. Both stadiums are operated by SMG.
Our field crew went there and placed the trays together doing the best they could and at one point the management told our field crew it was good enough and they could go home. Our crew refused to go home until they believed the field was good enough for play and spent another 6 hours into the night working on it in an attempt to make it ready for the next day's game.
Clowney got his cleat stuck in one of the seams between the trays. That's how the injury occurred. It had nothing to do with conditioning.
Regards..........................the Chiefjag
Quote:It's true the field is crap. It is made up of thousands of trays of grass about 4ft x 4ft and put together in mosaic form. Back in August our field crew was shipped to Houston to try to get the field ready for an exhibition game after their field crew manager quit at a moment's notice. Both stadiums are operated by SMG.
Our field crew went there and placed the trays together doing the best they could and at one point the management told our field crew it was good enough and they could go home. Our crew refused to go home until they believed the field was good enough for play and spent another 6 hours into the night working on it in an attempt to make it ready for the next day's game.
Clowney got his cleat stuck in one of the seams between the trays. That's how the injury occurred. It had nothing to do with conditioning.
Regards..........................the Chiefjag
Chief's got it right. The two primary drivers of the field being constructed this way:
1) The trays allow for the sod to be easily transported in-and-out of the stadium so that the grass can grow in an outdoors environment. NRG is rarely opened, so there's not enough natural light to grow grass inside the stadium.
2) Any field surface must be completely removable so that the Texas Livestock Show and Rodeo (the other major tenant of NRG) can operate in the spring.
I seem to recall reading an article or a report on why the decision was made to use this system as opposed to alternatives a few years ago. I can't find it at the moment, however.
Quote:It's true the field is crap. It is made up of thousands of trays of grass about 4ft x 4ft and put together in mosaic form. Back in August our field crew was shipped to Houston to try to get the field ready for an exhibition game after their field crew manager quit at a moment's notice. Both stadiums are operated by SMG.
Our field crew went there and placed the trays together doing the best they could and at one point the management told our field crew it was good enough and they could go home. Our crew refused to go home until they believed the field was good enough for play and spent another 6 hours into the night working on it in an attempt to make it ready for the next day's game.
Clowney got his cleat stuck in one of the seams between the trays. That's how the injury occurred. It had nothing to do with conditioning.
Regards..........................the Chiefjag
While I understand what you're saying, if clowney put more time into conditioning or even stretching, that may have been avoided.
Not saying its the cause or the solution but it could have helped.
Quote:Would anyone here be interested in trading our top 5 pick this year for Clowney?
I'd rather draft Gregory. Better moves and bigger motor
Quote:I'd rather draft Gregory. Better moves and bigger motor
id rather draft vic beasley or amari