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Quote:If you think the 2014 defense is similar to what we saw last year, then you're clueless.

He didn't say the 2014 defense is similar...ace. Try getting your own head out of your butt before calling someone else clueless.

Quote:He didn't say the 2014 defense is similar...ace. Try getting your own head out of your butt before calling someone else clueless.

 

Ok dad.

Quote:I was, how could you disagree?  In the majority of games this season, the game was virtually out of hand by halftime or in the 3rd quarter.

 

At Washington it was 21-7 at the half

Against the Colts 30-nil at the half

At San Diego 27-14 in the 3Q

Against Miami was 10-3 at the half and 24-6 in the 3Q

At Cinci was 19-9 in the 3Q

Against Dallas was 24-7 at the half

At Indy was 20-3 in the 3Q

 

2-10 isn't pretty...

 

That doesn't mean teams don't gameplan. That's a silly assumption, this is the NFL.

Quote:That doesn't mean teams don't gameplan. That's a silly assumption, this is the NFL.

Well you're arguing with a troll so don't take it too seriously.

Billick is a moron for saying Gus is doing a "great" job.  He's doing a great job at losing.  Just like someone posted earlier, it's wins and losses that show a team is improving or not.

Quote:That doesn't mean teams don't gameplan. That's a silly assumption, this is the NFL.

 

Here's my exact verbiage from my earlier post you are referencing...

 

"My other concern is that when you say we "held" the Colts (or really any team) I think most teams don't game plan much at all for the Jags and basically coast to victory for the most part if we're being honest."

 

My words indicate it is my opinion.  I also said game plan "much" as in I doubt teams game plan for us like they would for the Pats, Broncs, etc.  Let's be honest, teams can probably run their basic schemes to beat us.  I doubt they have to game plan in wrinkles.

Quote:Well you're arguing with a troll so don't take it too seriously.

 

There's no arguing here.  It's wide open discussioon which is what I thought a message board was.  But you're entitled to your own opinion :thumbsup:

Quote:There's no arguing here.  It's wide open discussioon which is what I thought a message board was.  But you're entitled to your own opinion :thumbsup:

You're entitled to your opinion, absolutely.  After reading your posts over the past few months, my opinion is that you're a troll.

Quote:Here's my exact verbiage from my earlier post you are referencing...

 

"My other concern is that when you say we "held" the Colts (or really any team) I think most teams don't game plan much at all for the Jags and basically coast to victory for the most part if we're being honest."

 

My words indicate it is my opinion.  I also said game plan "much" as in I doubt teams game plan for us like they would for the Pats, Broncs, etc.  Let's be honest, teams can probably run their basic schemes to beat us.  I doubt they have to game plan in wrinkles.

 

I don't believe that's the case. Teams always take their opponent seriously no matter what their record is. The coaches aren't just going to let players skip meetings because it's "Jaguars week." 

Quote:I don't believe that's the case. Teams always take their opponent seriously no matter what their record is. The coaches aren't just going to let players skip meetings because it's "Jaguars week." 

 

I don't recall saying skip meetings anywhere.  If you want to believe that teams game plan to the same level for the Jags than they do the best teams in the NFL then have at it.

Quote:Here's my exact verbiage from my earlier post you are referencing...

 

"My other concern is that when you say we "held" the Colts (or really any team) I think most teams don't game plan much at all for the Jags and basically coast to victory for the most part if we're being honest."

 

My words indicate it is my opinion.  I also said game plan "much" as in I doubt teams game plan for us like they would for the Pats, Broncs, etc.  Let's be honest, teams can probably run their basic schemes to beat us.  I doubt they have to game plan in wrinkles.

 

 

From the Houston Chronicle:

 

Quote:The Texans should improve to 7-6 Sunday after facing Jacksonville. But coach Bill O’Brien stressed that the Jaguars – who knocked off the Texans twice last year — are improving, as evidenced by rallying from 21 points down to defeat the New York Giants on Sunday.

<p style="font-size:13px;font-family:'Helvetica Neue';color:rgb(0,0,0);">“We have to really study Jacksonville,” O’Brien said. “Just having watched a lot of Jacksonville (Monday) morning already, I don’t care what their record is — I really don’t. It’s not coach-speak. It’s the truth.

<p style="font-size:13px;font-family:'Helvetica Neue';color:rgb(0,0,0);">This team is a talented team, well coached. I have a lot of respect for Gus Bradley and the way he coaches, the energy that he brings to their team. They’re playing very hard.”

 

Quote:From the Houston Chronicle:

 

To sum up his comments: platitudes and lip-service.

 

I'd be absolutely shocked if he weren't feeling extremely confident heading into this game.

 

I wouldn't be surprised of the grand sum of his game planning amounts to "lots of handoffs, stress ball security and we'll win by 30."

Quote:To sum up his comments: platitudes and lip-service.

 

I'd be absolutely shocked if he weren't feeling extremely confident heading into this game.

 

I wouldn't be surprised of the grand sum of his game planning amounts to "lots of handoffs, stress ball security and we'll win by 30."

 

I think you guys are foolish to think that men who get paid millions of dollars in a results-oriented business would be so stupid as to overlook an  "easy" opponent in the NFL. 

 

Is it harder to game-plan for the Packers?  Hell yes.  Do they phone it in for the Jaguars?  No. Does he feel confident? Of course he does.  Will he do his due diligence?  If he's not a complete heel he will. 

Especially when your predecessor just got swept by this team and consequently fired.  

 

 If the man were giving lip service - why would he bother to actually say the words "this isn't coach-speak."  LOL.   He'd have to be a bit "off his rocker" to feel the need to go to that length of "lip-service." 

Quote:I think you guys are foolish to think that men who get paid millions of dollars in a results-oriented business would be so stupid as to overlook an  "easy" opponent in the NFL. 

 

Is it harder to game-plan for the Packers?  Hell yes.  Do they phone it in for the Jaguars?  No. Does he feel confident? Of course he does.  Will he do his due diligence?  If he's not a complete heel he will. 

Especially when your predecessor just got swept by this team and consequently fired.  

 

 If the man were giving lip service - why would he bother to actually say the words "this isn't coach-speak."  LOL.   He'd have to be a bit "off his rocker" to feel the need to go to that length of "lip-service." 

 

NYC, you seem like a fairly astute guy, so I'll assume that I wasn't clear in my point.

 

I don't expect that he's "overlooking" the Jaguars, I just expect that he likely believes a simple and straightforward game plan is enough to beat the Jaguars. I also believe he fully expects his team to win regardless of almost anything that could happen, because he's likely looking at how the Giants took the lead then proceeded to lose the game and understanding clearly how he can keep such a thing from happening to the texans.

 

And I believe everything any coach ever says is coach speak. Nothing these guys say is anything but the same thing you'll hear every week, and I feel quite sure that his appraisal of the Jaguars as the team currently is wouldn't be nearly as glowing as he professes when put behind a microphone.

Quote:To sum up his comments: platitudes and lip-service.

 

I'd be absolutely shocked if he weren't feeling extremely confident heading into this game.

 

I wouldn't be surprised of the grand sum of his game planning amounts to "lots of handoffs, stress ball security and we'll win by 30."

 

 

Quote:NYC, you seem like a fairly astute guy, so I'll assume that I wasn't clear in my point.

 

I don't expect that he's "overlooking" the Jaguars,

 

Your explanation is appreciated - but the bolded areas seem in contradiction to one another. So - if I mistook your meaning, that is why. 

 

We see it a little differently, but not worlds apart.  I think that coaches are capable of shooting from the hip as well as speaking plainly at times. I actually think it's becoming a little bit more common among a few of the younger coaches.  Still - much of what crosses their lips when a microphone is present is at the very least glossed over and sometimes pure "coach-speak."  I just find it odd that a grown man would say "this isn't coach speak" and then lie through his teeth.  Why bother with the disclaimer in the first place? 

I haven't read this entire thread and so have no idea who said what, but anyone who truly believes any NFL team does not seriously study and game plan for their upcoming opponent, regardless of record, is a fool.

I love this message board right now!  I can see Oklahomie's point and I can also see NYCJags' point.  Both have merit.

 

Heck, even JeremyNFL is making good points in most threads.  He's no troll, that's for sure. 

 

I can't believe how much a win is like prozac for me.  Or whatever new fancy drug they push on people nowadays...

Quote:I can't believe how much a win is like prozac for me.  Or whatever new fancy drug they push on people nowadays...

The sweet stinky.

Quote:I haven't read this entire thread and so have no idea who said what, but anyone who truly believes any NFL team does not seriously study and game plan for their upcoming opponent, regardless of record, is a fool.

 

I thought is was a well known fact that there are a lot of fools in here.

 

Good fools, bad fools, funny fools and fool fools, just all kinds of fools in here.

Quote:I love this message board right now!  I can see Oklahomie's point and I can also see NYCJags' point.  Both have merit.

 

Heck, even JeremyNFL is making good points in most threads.  He's no troll, that's for sure. 

 

I can't believe how much a win is like prozac for me.  Or whatever new fancy drug they push on people nowadays...

 

 Winning is the ULTIMATE drug in sports.