Thank God I can watch both the Buckeyes and Gators.
Where did the nicknames Egg Bowl and Iron Bowl come from?
I will be rooting for the underdogs to help Ohio State move up.
I love UCF V South Florida. ...UCF spyglass have rolled them, but Storm Johnson had 3 or 4 fumbles to keep it close
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Where did the nicknames Egg Bowl and Iron Bowl come from?
Egg Bowl is cuz the trophy looks like an egg. Iron Bowl because Birmingham was big in the steel industry.
Quote:Egg Bowl is cuz the trophy looks like an egg. Iron Bowl because Birmingham was big in the steel industry.
They named the egg bowl way back in 1915...the egg was more rugby shape and looked like an egg at the time. I think its the 10th longest consecutively played game in the country.
Quote:Thank God I can watch both the Buckeyes and Gators.
Where did the nicknames Egg Bowl and Iron Bowl come from?
I will be rooting for the underdogs to help Ohio State move up.
I'm not trying to be mean, but there is this thing called "google." It works wonders for questions like this.
Quote:I'm not trying to be mean, but there is this thing called "google." It works wonders for questions like this.
I agree. Like that story we talked about on Jameis.
One of the best weekends of the year!
Tenn at Vandy - I will not be going to this game. Even though its at Vandy I'm sure it'll be a sea of orange. nasty puke orange with missing teeth. Sadly I think Derek Mason will be back next year. But I'm hoping they at least fire the OC Dorrell. He just isnt a college guy. He belongs in the NFL. Tenn needs this win for a bowl game. Would be amazing if Vandy could prevent that. not hopeful though.
GaTech at UGA - GaTech has already clinched their spot in the ACC title game. They are playing for a right to be the ACC replacement in a major bowl assuming FSU makes the playoff. UGA on the otherhand has an outside shot of making the playoff. They need a little help to make the SEC title game. But if they do, and they beat someone like Bama, they'll be arguably the most attractive 2 loss team. (although UCLA may disagree). a few breaks such as FSU losing and/or Oregon losing and UGA slides right in. Always an interesting matchup. Rivalry game. And you have the uniqueness of Johnson's offense. Tech though doenst have a ton of high caliber wins. and UGA almost always has more talent. Just a matter of whether they play up to it. UGA should win. But you never know.
other games...
Iron Bowl - Bama obviously playing for a playoff bid. And revenge for last year. Huge game as has been the norm of late.
Egg Bowl - Miss St playing for a playoff bid as well. Ole Miss really seems to have come unhinged after that unfortunate loss a couple weeks back along with Treadwell's injury. Not a great matchup for Ole Miss either. Teams that can pound the rock have given them fits. Thats what Miss St does!
UF at FSU - this game needs a name. or a trophy. technically dont they play for the Governors Trophy or something? If this game does have a name or a trophy, it's not an iconic one. Anyways not sure what to think. I personally dont believe FSU is one of the 4 best teams in the country. Great teams will have close games against inferior talent every now and then. But they dont every week. FSU has been playing with fire and hasnt been burned yet. I wonder if they'll get up for this game moreso than BC or Miami or Virginia. I didnt think this was a great matchup for Florida until I saw BC consistently pick up chunks of yards running the ball. FSU had been getting picked apart through the air but not on the ground. BC changed that. Florida could come out jacked up ready to play for Muschamp. And Muschamp may not be so conservative. Leave it all out on the table.
Arkansas at Mizzou - Mizzou wins this game they play in SEC title game. If they lose, UGA does. Both teams that struggled early in the year but have come on strong. Mizzou goes how Maty Mauk goes. When he plays well the team plays really well. When he stinks, he really stinks and so does the team. He has played better lately and they keep winning. Hogs on the otherhand were so close early in the season but were the anti-FSU. Would play good teams close but would find ways to lose. FSU is playing average teams close and finding ways to win. Hogs are pounding the rock and playing good defense. I think they win this game.
Minnesota at Wisconsin - winner takes all game for the Big10 West and the right to play Ohio St... not to mention Paul Bunyans axe(one of hte better trophy games) Both teams like to run. Weather is supposed to be alright. high 30s and now precipitation. Should be a great old fashioned physical game. Tough to bet against Wisconsin. The way they are playing I like their chances against the Buckeyes.
Stanford at UCLA - Bruins, who I continue to think are overrated, are one win away from Pac12 title game amazingly. They struggled against Virginia. Struggled against Memphis. Got blasted by Oregon. Barely beat an average Cal team. Needed double overtime to beat a terrible Colorado team. But they've got wins against all the right teams. Arizona St, Arizona, and USC. Now all they need is a win over Stanford who has been extremely disappointing this year. You have to like UCLA's chances. But I dont like them in a rematch against the Ducks.
Oregon at Oregon St - Civil War.Oregon should roll... however Beavers had that suprising win against Arizona St a couple weeks ago. And they do have a big armed QB in Sean Mannion who if he gets hot can put up some points. Definitely worth keeping an eye on in case it's close.
Arizona St at Arizona - One of the biggest matchups in this rivalry's history. Winner of this goes to Pac12 title game if UCLA loses. Arizona a little knicked up. Not sure if their QB Soloman willl play. If not I dont like their chances. Arizona St blasted them last year and they are pretty good once again this year.
TCU at Texas - thanksgiving game. TCU still alive for the playoffs. Obviously cant afford another loss. Texas quietly playing better... just whooped up on West Virginia and Okie St in back to back weekends And you know they dont like playing 3rd fiddle behind two smaller private schools like TCU and Baylor.
Too many other interesting rivalry games... Ohio St - Michigan (does Brady Hoke go out with his biggest win?), South Carolina - Clemson (is this it for the ole ball coach?)... Kansas - Kansas St (wildcats still have big12 title hopes).... Kentucky-Louisville (Kentucky needs this for a bowl game)
Utah St at Boise St... Colorado St at Air Force- Former is an important game for my CSU Rams. a Utah St win, assuming CSU win, propels the Rams to the Mountain West title game. And a win there puts them with a decent shot at making one of the big 6 bowls. of all the midmajors they are one of the few with two wins over power 5 teams. Colorado and at Boston College. CSU cant sleep on spunky Air Force. The commander and chiefs trophy winning Air Force.
conference races...
SEC West - If Bama wins they are in, if Miss St loses Bama is in. Miss St needs to win coupled with a Bama loss. Egg Bowl is at 3:30. Iron Bowl is at 8PM
SEC East - Mizzou wins they are in, if they lose UGA is in. I'm betting Bama would much rather play Mizzou.
Pac12 North - Oregon has clinched
Pac 12 South - If UCLA wins they are in. If they lose, the winner of Arizona St-Arizona is in. Both games are Friday and both at 3:30.
Big10 East - OHio St has clinched
Big10 West - Wisconsin-Minnesota winner takes it.
Big12 - two more weeks left in the regular season. If Baylor wins out they take it. Tough game against Kansas St left... if they slip up and TCU wins last two, Horned Frogs get. If Kansas St wins their last two(which includes a win over Baylor) and TCU loses once, then K-State takes it.... and then the Big12 probably misses out on playoff
ACC - FSU vs Georgia Tech
Playoffs...
Bama - Obviously if they beat Auburn and win SEC title game they are a lock to get the #1 seed. I think there are scenarios where they end up with 2 losses and still make the playoffs... but may need a little help.
Oregon - Civil War against Oregon St and then a likely rematch against UCLA. I think they are one of the two best teams int eh country. Would be surprised if htey dont make it to the playoffs. I think any loss knocks them out... although maybe a few scenarios where they get in as a 2 loss conference champion.
FSU - I dont believe they are one of hte 4 best but you cant deny a team that finds a way to win. I said before the Miami game that I think they'd lose one of their instate matchups. which now means Florida must win. I just have a hard time believing FSU will finish undefeated but they are only two games away. Florida and Georgia Tech. I dont see them getting in with one loss.... not with so many bad wins. Not unless you have catastrophic losses all around them.
Miss St - If they are 4th and they beat Ole Miss, how can you drop them? Maybe if htey look awful doing it? And someone like Baylor or Ohio St looks great in their last two? I have a hard time believing State is one of the 4 best.
Baylor/TCU - not sure what to make of this. Lets say both run the table. I could make the argument for both. Baylor obviously has the head to head win so common sense says that trumps all. But are we picking the best or most deserving? I think you can make the reasonable argument that TCU is better. And even though they lost to Baylor they did so on the road by a historic Bears comeback. If that game had been at TCU maybe TCU wins and maybe they do so by more 3 points. Should TCU be penalized because by random chance the game was at Baylor and not at TCU? And had it been at TCU they'd likely win?
Ohio St - still hanging around. Didnt look great against Indiana last week although they pulled away late. A convincing win against Michigan would be helpful. And I think a win over Wisconsin will do more for them than a rematch win over Minnesota. I think they still need help. But if anyone else up top slips up, Ohio St will easily slide in.
UCLA - in the top 10 now. And theyve got a chnace to knock out one of the teams above in Oregon. But man has UCLA been really bad at times this year. I just cant see them leapfrogging all these other teams. And I cant see how a team that has 2 losses coupled with some really unimpressive wins(as mentioned above) will have a good enough resume.
UGA - outside shot if they can get in SEC title game and beat a one loss Bama. They'll have some good wins. Beat Bama, beat Auburn. Crushed Mizzou. Crushed Arkansas. Non-conference wins over Clemson and Georgia Tech. 2 of the 4 best in the ACC. They dont really have any bad wins other than maybe Tennessee. All their wins have been impressive and decisive. But those two stinker "Mark Richt specials" type losses... even if both were away from home. They'll obviously need some help. I think a win by Florida over FSU would really help. A) It'll knock one of the teams above them out of it. B) It'll make their loss to Florida look less bad. Actually I think that would get them in... they'd leapfrog Bama. They'd leapfrog FSU. They'd leapfrog UCLA. I cant imagine both Big12 teams would get in above them. Oregon, Ohio St, Big12... Miss St? Would the committee take a 2 loss UGA champion over a one loss Miss St non-division champion?
I never heard of a Governor's Trophy for the Gators/Seminoles game, but a good name for it would be the Battle of North Florida.
The playoff committee would be stupid to not put TCU or Baylor in the final four unless they both lose again. But the national championship game is in Arlington, so allowing the Frogs or Bears in would give them a huge homefield advantage if they make it there.
Ohio State/Michigan will be a good one. It is a bigger rivalry than Florida/Florida State and IMO more deserving of a name.
If Florida gets blown out in the first half, I might change the channel to watch the Egg Bowl and root for Ole Miss.
Quote:I agree. Like that story we talked about on Jameis.
And as I said in the other thread, I googled it and found nothing.
Quote:I'm not trying to be mean, but there is this thing called "google." It works wonders for questions like this.
Some people prefer this thing called conversation to find out such things, shocking I know, but it's true. Gotta be impossible for an FSU fan to understand, but that's how it goes.
If Clemson is ever going to beat USC, it needs to be this year.
Bad wins? How can you have too many bad wins? College football logic is insane sometimes. I'd rather have a season full of "bad wins" than one filled with "good losses" in a power 5 conference. This "game control" thing is ridiculous. A team could be "in control" of another team for 59 min in a game and still lose the game in the last minute. A win is all that should matter with power 5 conference ball.
Quote:And as I said in the other thread, I googled it and found nothing.
Maybe it really is broke.
Quote:Some people prefer this thing called conversation to find out such things, shocking I know, but it's true. Gotta be impossible for an FSU fan to understand, but that's how it goes.
That is because conversation is more fun than scrolling through a bunch of links that are completely irrelevant, which happens every time I search anything on the Web. Also, if somebody knows the answer, I don't need to waste time doing that. What you say takes only 15 seconds actually takes me an hour.
Quote:Bad wins? How can you have too many bad wins? College football logic is insane sometimes. I'd rather have a season full of "bad wins" than one filled with "good losses" in a power 5 conference. This "game control" thing is ridiculous. A team could be "in control" of another team for 59 min in a game and still lose the game in the last minute. A win is all that should matter with power 5 conference ball.
If you were a coach or player, would you call that game a good loss? Of course not - because all they can think about is, "We should have won the game."
Quote:Bad wins? How can you have too many bad wins? College football logic is insane sometimes. I'd rather have a season full of "bad wins" than one filled with "good losses" in a power 5 conference. This "game control" thing is ridiculous. A team could be "in control" of another team for 59 min in a game and still lose the game in the last minute. A win is all that should matter with power 5 conference ball.
Well this isnt the NFL where nearly 40% of the teams and almost every team that finishes with a record over .500 makes the playoff. In which case it doesnt matter how good you are, you just need to squeak out as many wins as you can and you're in. For this college playoff, you're trying to pick the best 4 out of 120+. And if you are a team like UCLA that has struggled to beat a lot of average to bad teams, thats not a fluke. Great teams dont consistently struggle to beat mediocre to average competition. What it means is that you aren't all the great yourself.
Quote:Well this isnt the NFL where nearly 40% of the teams and almost every team that finishes with a record over .500 makes the playoff. In which case it doesnt matter how good you are, you just need to squeak out as many wins as you can and you're in. For this college playoff, you're trying to pick the best 4 out of 120+. And if you are a team like UCLA that has struggled to beat a lot of average to bad teams, thats not a fluke. Great teams dont consistently struggle to beat mediocre to average competition. What it means is that you aren't all the great yourself.
Great teams find ways to win. Those two teams who are ranked ahead of FSU have not done that all season. I'm happy to be in the playoff, but it's a travesty that two teams with one loss are ranked higher than an undefeated team that plays in the power 5 conference. Wins should be what counts when there is only one team left undefeated.
Quote:Well this isnt the NFL where nearly 40% of the teams and almost every team that finishes with a record over .500 makes the playoff. In which case it doesnt matter how good you are, you just need to squeak out as many wins as you can and you're in. For this college playoff, you're trying to pick the best 4 out of 120+. And if you are a team like UCLA that has struggled to beat a lot of average to bad teams, thats not a fluke. Great teams dont consistently struggle to beat mediocre to average competition. What it means is that you aren't all the great yourself.
That describes FSU. If Florida State can get rewarded for squeaking out wins agianst several bad teams, why isn't UCLA in the playoff conversation?
Because people think if you are the reignig national champion, it does not matter how you win as long as you win. If the Buckeyes are left out in favor of a team that barely beat several unranked opponents, which would be stupid because Ohio State blew out most unranked opponents, my rooting interest will be against FSU.
Quote:Great teams find ways to win. Those two teams who are ranked ahead of FSU have not done that all season. I'm happy to be in the playoff, but it's a travesty that two teams with one loss are ranked higher than an undefeated team that plays in the power 5 conference. Wins should be what counts when there is only one team left undefeated.
When I made this argument in an earlier thread, somebody pointed out that implies undefeated Marshall is better than all of the one-loss teams. Of course I don't believe that at all and he took me too literally but he is right - Marshall is not one of the best teams. Would you put Marshall in front of both teams ranked higher than FSU?