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Quote:I thought mccray played well today. Gratz, not so much

 

No one had a good game in the secondary.

 

McCray got trucked for a TD at least once.

Quote:our best player today, makes sense though

 

Are you guys getting some of the numbers mixed up?

 

I saw one nice PD, and the back of his jersey a lot while the Cowboys were reaching the end zone.

I too love turds on my ice cream sundae.

Quote:Are you guys getting some of the numbers mixed up?

 

I saw one nice PD, and the back of his jersey a lot while the Cowboys were reaching the end zone.

 

I saw a guy who shut down Dez Bryant in the first quarter, who then lined up on the other side for the rest of the game.


 

Bryant was more than 50% of the Dallas passing offense. His two big TDs came against Gratz. Most of the rest were passes to the TEs and Murray.


 

McCray had a great game. What game were you watching?

Quote:Are you guys getting some of the numbers mixed up?


I saw one nice PD, and the back of his jersey a lot while the Cowboys were reaching the end zone.

I didnt get the numbers mixed up. Either you just looked at Romo and Dez stats or you watched a different game than me!

Quote:I saw a guy who shut down Dez Bryant in the first quarter, who then lined up on the other side for the rest of the game.


Bryant was more than 50% of the Dallas passing offense. His two big TDs came against Gratz. Most of the rest were passes to the TEs and Murray.


McCray had a great game. What game were you watching?

Yep, Dez started getting open once they put him in the slot and against gratz

Quote:Not today. Today you saw his true colors.


Some folks fall for anything.


He's certainly not what some of you think he is.


He's not the future at either corner. Both sides need significant upgrading.

Lol what are you smokin champ?


He was 100 times better than that garbage playing on the opposite side of him

McCray played well.  I wish they'd have had him shadow Bryant.   Might be a consideration for Beckham or TY Hilton in coming weeks. 

Quote:The difference between a good GM and a great GM is the ability to find quality talent in the late rounds. With McCray and now Bowanko impressing Caldwell definitely has us on the right track.

 

Sooo....Caldwell gets a pass on Joeckel and Cyp being average at best?  We need Pro-Bowlers in the early rounds.  So far, that hasn't happened.

Quote:Sooo....Caldwell gets a pass on Joeckel and Cyp being average at best?  We need Pro-Bowlers in the early rounds.  So far, that hasn't happened.

 

I don't think anyone's giving him a pass, are they?  Joeckel had to get screws in his ankle in the middle of his rookie year for crying out loud. You'll pardon me if I give him a little more time.  I have a tendency to think he'll look better with an offseason that involves getting stronger instead of trying to walk again without assistance. 

 

Cyprien has been no where near as bad as the whine and moan crowd have let on  - but I think he needs to play better and do it soon to not be labeled a below average pick at 33.  

Quote:McCray played well. I wish they'd have had him shadow Bryant. Might be a consideration for Beckham or TY Hilton in coming weeks.

Some players play better on one side. Like Richard Sherman only plays left corner and doesn't follow the teams best WR. Seems to be that way with McCray

Quote:I don't think anyone's giving him a pass, are they? Joeckel had to get screws in his ankle in the middle of his rookie year for crying out loud. You'll pardon me if I give him a little more time. I have a tendency to think he'll look better with an offseason that involves getting stronger instead of trying to walk again without assistance.


Cyprien has been no where near as bad as the whine and moan crowd have let on - but I think he needs to play better and do it soon to not be labeled a below average pick at 33.

I have a plate and 5 screws in my foot right now from the same dr. that fixed Joeckel's ankle. I can totally sympathize with what Luke went through last year. A little more than a month past my surgery and it still feels like I'm never gonna walk again. I can only imagine how hard it most be for him to go against professional athletes only a year removed from having that injury.

Eh it's the NFL. If you're cleared to play, your job is to make plays.


He's a good run blocker it seems but seems to be struggling in pass pro, which is kind of confusing to me because I thought it would be flipped

Quote:Some players play better on one side. Like Richard Sherman only plays left corner and doesn't follow the teams best WR. Seems to be that way with McCray

I'm aware.  BUT  --  McCray has already played both sides well for us this season. Remember the Gratz benching?? 

Nearly every time I saw someone play well in our secondary, I looked at the jersey and it was McCray.  He gets himself into good position and is our best DB right now.

Quote:Eh it's the NFL. If you're cleared to play, your job is to make plays.


He's a good run blocker it seems but seems to be struggling in pass pro, which is kind of confusing to me because I thought it would be flipped

No offense - but - that's very naive.  While it may be "his job" - there are dozens of players every year around the league playing below their best due to post injury lack of strength and flexibility. 

 

Have you noticed the difference between Miller last year and this year? 

Quote:I'm aware. BUT -- McCray has already played both sides well for us this season. Remember the Gratz benching??

He has played much better on the right. It's that Seattle defense where they don't move the corners

Quote:He has played much better on the right. It's that Seattle defense where they don't move the corners

 

I'm well aware of where the scheme is derived, LOL.  That doesn't change anything about what I said.  He played well on the other side for parts of two games.   I'd consider shadowing the more dangerous receivers with him regardless of what Richard Sherman (who got torched by Beckham twice today) does. 

 

Much better on the right?  No. I disagree.  He was good on the left too.

Quote:I'm well aware of where the scheme is derived, LOL. That doesn't change anything about what I said. He played well on the other side for parts of two games. I'd consider shadowing the more dangerous receivers with him regardless of what Richard Sherman (who got torched by Beckham twice today) does.

Much better on the right? No. I disagree. He was good on the left too.

He was good on the left but has gotten much better since on the right side. Gratz has played solid on the left but went against Dez today where Cyp should of helped multiple times over the top and was just late getting there and couldn't tackle when he was.

Quote:No offense - but - that's very naive. While it may be "his job" - there are dozens of players every year around the league playing below their best due to post injury lack of strength and flexibility.


Have you noticed the difference between Miller last year and this year?

No, I know... You're right. It just appears he would struggle more in run blocking than the more finesse pass blocking. But that's not the case.


I also think at some point I'm sick of looking for reasons (excuses). There's adversity all over the place and teams still get results. romo played with a broken back for gods sake. If you're out there, you need to play well - or you can and will get criticized.