Quote:Whether you support it or not, it's in process. So the people who don't like it might have to learn to deal with it.
If Bradley is 1-15 by seasons end I don't think he should be fired. I think he'd start to get anxious though.
From 4-12 to 1-15 and you keep him? And the whole staff?
Quote:Whether you support it or not, it's in process. So the people who don't like it might have to learn to deal with it.
If Bradley is 1-15 by seasons end I don't think he should be fired. I think he'd start to get anxious though.
we ARE dealing with it. I'll still go to sleep tonight without Gus Bradley on my mind.
I am not about blindly following anyone, which is what you are doing. I'll give credit where credit is due, but I will also criticize when I see it's appropriate. I am paying money to see the Jags live and have been doing so for years. I know nobody forces me to, but it's something I enjoy.
I think the front office and coaching staff needs to show more urgency. I want them to actually flat-out say that YES, it IS about getting wins. I want them to know that we won't be happy watching a bunch of rookies and low-end free agents take the field and get routinely blown out.
Quote:From 4-12 to 1-15 and you keep him? And the whole staff?
Like I said, you cant fire him too early. There's been noticeable improvement in numerous areas of the team. I don't see why that should stop.
Quote:we ARE dealing with it. I'll still go to sleep tonight without Gus Bradley on my mind.
I think the front office and coaching staff needs to show more urgency. I want them to actually flat-out say that YES, it IS about getting wins. I want them to know that we won't be happy watching a bunch of rookies and low-end free agents take the field and get routinely blown out.
I'm pretty sure they want to win just as much as you do. It's their job for crying out loud.
Quote:From 4-12 to 1-15 and you keep him? And the whole staff?
You certainly can't keep the whole staff. I would hope we'd see a shakeup with the assistants. How could you not?
Im hoping some college team comes and hires Jedd because Gus isn't going to fire him imo.
Cool with Gus for now, I guess.
Quote:You certainly can't keep the whole staff. I would hope we'd see a shakeup with the assistants. How could you not?
The last thing you need with a team full of rookies and young players is coaching change.
Quote:I'm pretty sure they want to win just as much as you do. It's their job for crying out loud.
I'm sure they want to win even more than I do. I question whether they are capable.
Quote:Remember when people said the same thing about Gene? Lol
Funny thing is I like Caldwell and like the roster... The coaches are the main problem. Not the only problem but the main one.
I agree with you. I like Caldwell a heck of a lot better than any coach on this team. I think he's done a lot with what he's had time to do. He's brought in talent through all three phases. Drafting, free agency and UDFA. He hasn't been perfect or anything close but I see talent littered across this roster and I'm afraid it's going to be wasted and/or under-developed with the staff we have. Allen Robinson, Denard Robinson, Abry Jones, Red Bryant, Chris Clemons, Allen Hurns, Brandon Linder, Luke Bowanko, Telvin Smith, Joeckel (I don't think he's been as good as he should be but I think he still has the capability of getting there), Cyprien, Marks, etc are all guys I can see being pieces of the future puzzle. Guys who were brought in through various means.
Coaching is and has been a problem.
Hiring inexperienced (at their NFL positions) coaches wasn't a good idea in my opinion. Rookie HC is fine. But experience elsewhere is needed, particularly with the OC when your rookie HC is a defensive minded guy.
Quote:We're starting 8 rookies because Gus and Dave put them there. They created this themselves.
Let's also acknowledge Gus, Dave, Fisch, were all promoted into their positions without prior experience while Babich was actually DEMOTED in Chicago from DC to LB coach then dismissed.
Regards........................the Chiefjag
I've seen you state this point before. The prior regime had piss poor talent that did not suffice. What players were here before that would have made all the world of difference this year and turned this thing around? We would still be 1-8 with those guys. At least we are doing it with players with upside and building depth along the way.
Quote:The last thing you need with a team full of rookies and young players is coaching change.
If the guys you have aren't working, then you make the change. Keeping guys that aren't good enough for another year just for continuity is counterproductive and won't benefit the young players the most in the grand scheme.
Young players need developed and I haven't seen a lot of that IMO from the current coaches. That's a problem.
Quote:Im hoping some college team comes and hires Jedd because Gus isn't going to fire him imo.
Cool with Gus for now, I guess.
That'd be great. I don't have anything against Fisch as a person and hope he finds a job elsewhere but I don't like his offense. End of story.
Wouldn't it technically be 2 years if they fire him at the end of the season?
YAWK YAWK YAWK
Quote:If the guys you have aren't working, then you make the change. Keeping guys that aren't good enough for another year just for continuity is counterproductive and won't benefit the young players the most in the grand scheme.
Young players need developed and I haven't seen a lot of that IMO from the current coaches. That's a problem.
Her's the question though, what do you consider ample enough time to say if a player has developed though? Clearly we know Dawan Landry and Mathis aren't getting better but will Cyprien and McCray? Can you say they wont get better and enough time has elapsed to make that decision? I do know these same young players are producing the same results the old ones we cut were producing when they were here. The difference is these new guys have upside and I can live with that.
Quote:I've seen you state this point before. The prior regime had [BAD WORD REMOVED] poor talent that did not suffice. What players were here before that would have made all the world of difference this year and turned this thing around? We would still be 1-8 with those guys. At least we are doing it with players with upside and building depth along the way.
Eugene Monroe, Pot Roast, Daryl Smith for starters.
I also question cutting guys like Dawan Landry, CJ Mosley because they have shown to be decent NFL caliber players. Mosley was depth anyway, we still could have signed SenDerrick Marks as the starter.
They wouldn't have made the difference. The roster they inherited was poor. But why cut even the best guys from a poor roster? Makes no sense to me.
I agree with this post......Gus Bradley is not going anywhere .......yet. He will in all likelihood have this team under him next year but the microscope on him will be turned up full power. I think he will be on a short leash and if they stumble badly out of the gate to start next season, it wouldn't surprise me to see him fired early into the season. The same might not be said for the OC. Just don't think he has command of his decision making skills. That's a nice way to say he's over his head. A change "after this season" is needed at that position.
Quote:But it won't happen this year because we don't want to regress blake even though he's not getting significantly better
THIS MEANS EVERYTHING. If blake continues to show no improvement, or regresses more the rest of the way, there is 0 chance this staff is back (at least the offensive staff). Year 3 will be critical for caldwell, and i doubt he'll want to keep blake's future in their hands
People seem to forget, it's not like fisch had a stellar offense at miami
Quote:There is a very good foundation that was set when Khan hired this regime. There is a 3-4 year rebuilding plan in effect at the moment. This is what we expected.
Firing HC's after one season is a very Browns thing to do. We're not the Browns, and history shows having a revolving door at HC is something you don't do.
Sit back and relax folks because Gus Bradley isn't going anywhere.
You don't keep a head coach because you want a stable person at the top. You fire them if they're not capable leaders. If the guy isn't capable of leading a team to win the Super Bowl then you get rid of them. Bradley may be a good DC but he is not cut out to be a HC.
Khan didn't build his business by keep inept managers/leaders. I just hope he makes the right move, whatever it may be.
Quote:I agree with this post......Gus Bradley is not going anywhere .......yet. He will in all likelihood have this team under him next year but the microscope on him will be turned up full power. I think he will be on a short leash and if they stumble badly out of the gate to start next season, it wouldn't surprise me to see him fired early into the season. The same might not be said for the OC. Just don't think he has command of his decision making skills. That's a nice way to say he's over his head. A change "after this season" is needed at that position.
If they stumble early next year it'll just be a repeat of year 1 and 2 of Bradley. At that point if they fire him then we are only wasting next year and set back that much more. I think if Khan is going to fire him then it's this year. If he thinks he's a capable HC then he'll stick with him no matter what.