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Peyton has the numbers and he's a great QB but it's still Brady >>>>> Manning.

Quote:JW,

 

I watched that entire game last year from start to finish; and I can tell you that Peyton choked in that game. Just like he did against Seattle in the Superbowl.

 

I might actually be one of the few Jags fans on here who liked Peyton even when he was kicking our butts twice a year in the AFC South. He has tremendous leadership skills, a strong character, and not to mention one of the best arms in the game. But, he's arguably the biggest choker since Dan Marino.

 

 

He'll be remembered long after he retires from football for his insane stats and passing records, but he will ultimately be looked at as another Dan Marino when it comes to Super Bowls and big game situations overall.

 

 

And I believe that had Peyton faced any other QB besides Rex Grossman in SB XLI, he would have lost.

 

I also "like" him quite a bit. 


 

But I also agree with you that he completely falls off a cliff in the post season. 


 

No idea why-  I don't even have a theory. 

Quote:A block in the back should have been called on that play.

 

It was close, and I thought they were going to call it when i saw it live.  After re watching it, it was probably a pretty good no call....it was too close to call that a penalty.

Quote:I also "like" him quite a bit. 


 

But I also agree with you that he completely falls off a cliff in the post season. 


 

No idea why-  I don't even have a theory. 

 

He can't play outdoors in bad weather. Even the playoff games in Denver have had unseasonably good weather, otherwise they would've lost there too.

Quote:It was close, and I thought they were going to call it when I saw it live. After re-watching it, it was probably a pretty good no call....it was too close to call that a penalty.

 

I did not see the block live, but when Nantz, Simms, and Carey talked about it, I wished the touchdown was called back.

Quote:He can't play outdoors in bad weather. Even the playoff games in Denver have had unseasonably good weather, otherwise they would've lost there too.

 

Are you forgetting how bad the weather was in Miami when he won the Super Bowl? It was pouring rain. Fumbles were a problem for both teams because of wet footballs.

 

It was sunny in Foxboro yesterday, which is better than that rain storm he won the Super Bowl in.

Quote:Are you forgetting how bad the weather was in Miami when he won the Super Bowl? It was pouring rain. Fumbles were a problem for both teams because of wet footballs.

 

It was sunny in Foxboro yesterday, which is better than that rain storm he won the Super Bowl in.

 

It was cold and windy in Foxboro last night and he lost.

 

Both Super Bowls he played in Miami were over 65 degrees. Had they not been playing the Bears 2006  those 19 points he put up wouldn't have been enough to win and he'd be the biggest playoff choker ever.

 

How can we forget Tracy Porter taking the Manning hair ball to the house to beat them in 2009?

 



 

Last year in New York it was 48 degrees. We all know how that turned out for your boy and his team.

 

Quote:I did not see the block live, but when Nantz, Simms, and Carey talked about it, I wished the touchdown was called back.

They weren't winning that game anyway.

Quote:They weren't winning that game anyway.

 

I know, but it would have been nice to lose by a smaller margin.

Quote:They weren't winning that game anyway.

You're right. The Patriots have been on an absolute ROLL since the Kansas City game debacle.

The week after that, I heard the announcers talk about the Patriots had been juggling around the O-line all over the place the first part of the season.


Since that game, the O-line has been stable. They're not moving people around any longer. Look at the major difference it makes.

Add the O-line stability to a few game home stretch in Foxborough,, and they have been a Steamroller lately.

Quote:They weren't winning that game anyway.

 

She's a Donkos fan, of course she wanted it called back!

I agree with Brady>>>>>>Manning.  Manning is one of the best, but Brady is clutch.  He doesn't look 37 with those rockets he was throwing last night, and Gronk, holy crap...enough said

Manning choked again last night. Simply put, Brady owns Manning.

Brady's numbers would be up there with Manning if he wasn't polishing a turd of an offense the first half of his career.

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Look at what Manning has, serious weapons.  Brady just has Gronk.  I don't know how he does it.  Lafell?  He would fail if he were in a Jags uniform.  I see why Brady killed the NFL, and almost went 19-0 when he had an threat at WR with Moss. The thing that matters the most will never be in Manning's favor, which is play off/super bowl wins. 

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Look at what Manning has, serious weapons.  Brady just has Gronk.  I don't know how he does it.  Lafell?  He would fail if he were in a Jags uniform.  I see why Brady killed the NFL, and almost went 19-0 when he had an threat at WR with Moss. The thing that matters the most will never be in Manning's favor, which is play off/super bowl wins. 

 

Think about this: The WR is the most receptions in Patriots history is Peyton Manning's #4 option this season alone.

Quote:Manning choked again last night. Simply put, Brady owns Manning.

 

Head to head, Brady 11, Manning 5.

 

A tick more than double the wins.

There's a prevailing feeling here in New England that BB has failed to give TB the weapons he's needed over the years with the exception of Randy Moss with whom they went 17-1.

 

JW- your comment about it being "sunny in Foxboro" couldn't be further from the truth. It was dark by the 2nd half, windy with about a 42 degree temperature but a 30 degree wind chill. It was flat out nasty here. We even got an inch or so of snow around Noon.

Wow so I just read that no NFL team has a winning record against Tom Brady in the regular season. That's insane.


Amazing to think aswell that if Welker doesn't drop a couple passes Brady probably would have 5 SuperBowl wins.


Far too much emphasis is placed on stats. Brady is a better QB than Manning and does far more with less. How he got that team last year to the AFC Championship game is really quite incredible

From 2001 to 2006, Tom Brady's leading receivers were:

Deion Branch

David Givens

David Patten

Troy Brown

 

The guy even managed to lead the NFL in touchdowns one season with that polished turd of a receiving corps.