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MJD has a solid 3 years here.  That is not enough for the pride.  Seriously what kind of standard do we have for the pride? 

Quote:He is as likely to make the Pride as glabbart.

 

Wow, I wasn't really expecting this comparison.

 

OUCH!!!!!!!!

Quote:MJD has a solid 3 years here.  That is not enough for the pride.  Seriously what kind of standard do we have for the pride? 

 

Yeah, let's not lower the standard for the Pride.

 

Let's keep the standard high.

 

MJD definitely had a great opportunity to make it into the pride.

 

He just wasn't great for the Jags for enough seasons to make it into the Pride, IMHO.

 

ONTH, he did have a better career than I thought he would as a Jag.

 

I guess I kind of underestimated him because of his short stature and didn't really think he could be an every down back.

 

He even led the league in rushing one year, which was really impressive to me, unfortunately, that might just be what started him on the down slide.

 

Sorry MJD, but thanks for your time here as a Jag.

Quote:MJD has a solid 3 years here.  That is not enough for the pride.  Seriously what kind of standard do we have for the pride? 

 

Give me a break. He was the face of the franchise for a number of years; the only star this team had. He lead the league in rushing and was the only Jaguar player anyone outside Jacksonville could name. He garnered a lot of national attention for the team and the city.

 

He'll be in the Pride. Just because some people seem to take things personally it won't prevent the organization from recognizing his contributions to the club. 

Quote: NO, the Jags need to maintain a high standard for the Pride.

 

MJD was a great player for a few years here, but just not enough to be Pride-worthy.

 

I gotta be honest, I loved watching MJD run the ball!  I thought he was great!

 

But...  We made the play-offs once while he was the RB.  And Freddy T was in that back-field too.  

 

He just wasn't a transformative type RB to where I think he'll make the Pride.  Now if we were making playoff runs then I think he'd be a shoe in.  The fact that he was a very very good RB on mediocre/horrible teams kinda hurts his case.

Quote:Give me a break. He was the face of the franchise for a number of years; the only star this team had. He lead the league in rushing and was the only Jaguar player anyone outside Jacksonville could name. He garnered a lot of national attention for the team and the city.

 

He'll be in the Pride. Just because some people seem to take things personally it won't prevent the organization from recognizing his contributions to the club. 

 

It's not an honor for players who are  just very good.  It would cheapen it for the those who really do belong in there.  Personally, I think it should be based on performance (Taylor and Boselli are arguably HOF candidates) and off the field conduct (which is why JSmooth probably shouldn't be there).  Brunell probably shouldn't be in either.  He was a pretty good player in his day but can anyone really make an argument that he's worthy to even be considered for the HOF?  Same for MJD.  Do you really want an honor were you might have 50+ people in it within a few years? 

Quote:It's not an honor for players who are  just very good.  It would cheapen it for the those who really do belong in there.  Personally, I think it should be based on performance (Taylor and Boselli are arguably HOF candidates) and off the field conduct (which is why JSmooth probably shouldn't be there).  Brunell probably shouldn't be in either.  He was a pretty good player in his day but can anyone really make an argument that he's worthy to even be considered for the HOF?  Same for MJD.  Do you really want an honor were you might have 50+ people in it within a few years? 

 

NO, it should only be for the best of the best of the best of the best Jags.

Caldwell did the right thing to dump MJD. He wasn't producing anymore here, he had that foot injury, he played the 'holdout game' which hurt the team. The fact that MJD hasn't done anything at all since he left here is validation that Caldwell did the right thing for the franchise. It's too bad that the team really sucked the majority of the time he was here, but he's made his millions so no one should feel sorry for MJD at all.

I don't think he should make it into the pride.


I would also gladly take Toby over him at this point in their career.


I think Toby will figure things out.

Quote:I don't think he should make it into the pride.


I would also gladly take Toby over him at this point in their career.


I think Toby will figure things out.

I agree that MJD has no business being inducted into the 'pride'. He chose to be greedy instead of thinking about the team as demonstrated by his 'hold out'. That act, which MJD says was the doing of his agent, is the main reason why I think he doesn't deserve to be in the pride.

Quote:MJD has a solid 3 years here.  That is not enough for the pride.  Seriously what kind of standard do we have for the pride?

3 solid years? What damn games were you watching?

I think MJD was very good to elite for 5 solid years.  But again, it didn't really translate into the Jaguars being a playoff team.  Unfortunately, I think that's the thing that will keep him out of the Pride.  

Quote:It's not an honor for players who are  just very good.  It would cheapen it for the those who really do belong in there.  Personally, I think it should be based on performance (Taylor and Boselli are arguably HOF candidates) and off the field conduct (which is why JSmooth probably shouldn't be there).  Brunell probably shouldn't be in either.  He was a pretty good player in his day but can anyone really make an argument that he's worthy to even be considered for the HOF?  Same for MJD.  Do you really want an honor were you might have 50+ people in it within a few years? 

 

Oh, so now it's only for HOF players? Better take Boselli and Taylor's name down, 'cause they ain't getting in.

 

This is the Jaguars Pride - not the Hall of Fame. For players who had a great impact for the Jaguars. Thus, Brunell is a natural. This has nothing to do with the HOF. And Smith will probably get in once more time passes. If he can stay out of jail.

 

Which is why MJD will get in. Your "you might have 50+ in it in a few years" is a phony argument.

Quote:I think MJD was very good to elite for 5 solid years.  But again, it didn't really translate into the Jaguars being a playoff team.  Unfortunately, I think that's the thing that will keep him out of the Pride.  

 

So I guess no one gets in again?

 

Why would you think it has anything to do with the playoffs? You can't be great in a team game and not make the playoffs?

 

I guess Barry Sanders would never get in.

Quote:So I guess no one gets in again?


Why would you think it has anything to do with the playoffs? You can't be great in a team game and not make the playoffs?


I guess Barry Sanders would never get in.

Okay, fine. The floor is yours. Make a case for us why MJD should get in... Go!

Quote:Okay, fine. The floor is yours. Make a case for us why MJD should get in... Go!

 

Read post #44.

Quote:Read post #44.

Yea that's a pretty weak case. Outside of one standout year which produced nothing, in terms of wins. And as a poster stated before... 3 thousand yard seasons does not cut it.

Fred Taylor had 7 1000 yd seasons in 11 years with the Jags, and is the career rushing leader for them.

 

MJD  had 3 1000 yd rushing seasons in 8 years with the Jags. MJD does have the career TD record though with 81 TD's.

 

Fred Taylor gets in.

 

MJD might have a case to get in if not for FT, but FT gets in with the much better numbers at RB.

 

I don't hate MJD, I just don't think his #'s are good enough to make it in.

 

MJD was great for the Jags, just not great enough to get in, IMHO.

Quote:Oh, so now it's only for HOF players? Better take Boselli and Taylor's name down, 'cause they ain't getting in.

 

This is the Jaguars Pride - not the Hall of Fame. For players who had a great impact for the Jaguars. Thus, Brunell is a natural. This has nothing to do with the HOF. And Smith will probably get in once more time passes. If he can stay out of jail.

 

Which is why MJD will get in. Your "you might have 50+ in it in a few years" is a phony argument.

 

Did I say it was only for HOF players?  No, go back and read my post again.

Loved him as a jaguar but if he wasn't producing then you can't demand big money