Well that's a brilliantly impartial website you have there. Copying a news report from a website that looks like it's designed by a five year old and accepts articles for submission.
There's a video come on DF!
Quote:There's a video come on DF!
There was video of a guy who people claimed was the bomber at the Boston marathon as well. That turned out to be an innocent kid.
BTW, here's the page for the local Fox News affiliate:
http://www.fox10phoenix.com/. You'd think a someone stuffing the ballot box for a leftist party would be the kind of thing they report on.
Quote:There was video of a guy who people claimed was the bomber at the Boston marathon as well. That turned out to be an innocent kid.
BTW, here's the page for the local Fox News affiliate: http://www.fox10phoenix.com/. You'd think a someone stuffing the ballot box for a leftist party would be the kind of thing they report on.
So because a local affiliate hasn't picked up the story yet it must be fabricated? The article is citing the local GOP as testifying at hearings about this incident. Here's another link from the original source
http://www.arizonadailyindependent.com/2...t-on-tape/
Quote:So because a local affiliate hasn't picked up the story yet it must be fabricated? The article is citing the local GOP as testifying at hearings about this incident. Here's another link from the original source
http://www.arizonadailyindependent.com/2...t-on-tape/
That's the "website that looks like it's designed by a five year old and accepts articles for submission."
Quote:That's the "website that looks like it's designed by a five year old and accepts articles for submission."
So you're discounting:
video evidence
official testimony
and
eye witness accounts
Because the website looks like a five year old designed it?
Ahem, we prefer the politically correct term, "community organizing."
Quote:So you're discounting:
video evidence
official testimony
and
eye witness accounts
Because the website looks like a five year old designed it?
I see a video of a man doing something. Personally, I'm not familiar with any of the procedures or protocols to determine that what he's doing is illegal. I only have the word of someone else that he's performing an illegal act.
Furthermore, I see nothing that would indicate LaFaro actually made any kind of official statement or testimony. In fact, he is the only eye witness to this entire deal that is only reported on websites who's credibility is dubious at best.
My grandmother was a republican until the day she died. Since then she's been a staunch democrat.
The mantra from Republicans is there is a plenty of fraud, but it's never reported in the Leftist media. So much fraud, in fact, Democrats have taken over the House and may take over the Senate next month.
Oh, wait...
Quote:Well that's a brilliantly impartial website you have there. Copying a news report from a website that looks like it's designed by a five year old and accepts articles for submission.
Quote:There was video of a guy who people claimed was the bomber at the Boston marathon as well. That turned out to be an innocent kid.
BTW, here's the page for the local Fox News affiliate: http://www.fox10phoenix.com/. You'd think a someone stuffing the ballot box for a leftist party would be the kind of thing they report on.
Next time you get on to anyone that doesn't believe something you believe to be supported by "facts", just remember that you're unwilling to believe video evidence that supports the personal account given by the person there. I bet you need a signed confession before you're willing to believe anything, huh?
Quote:The mantra from Republicans is there is a plenty of fraud, but it's never reported in the Leftist media. So much fraud, in fact, Democrats have taken over the House and may take over the Senate next month.
Oh, wait...
I think most people are saying that it happens so much that the results aren't accurate. Whether or not it influenced the outcome is irrelevant. Voter fraud is voter fraud. It isn't mantra when it's actually been proven.
The last time I voted in Duval before moving out of state was in 2008. I was not asked for an ID and when I tried to show them anyway they looked at me like I was crazy. And I was the minority in my voting district at the time. Forgive the way I put this but I don't know how else to explain it. I was the whitest person in the blackest part of town, and no one raised an eyebrow. I thought that was just weird. I'd always been asked for ID previously wherever I voted.
Here in NC, or at least the county I live in, they require ID to vote. Or they ask for it anyway. I don't know what happens if you don't have one. I think I'll ask someone at the mid-terms.
I think those who vote should have to show a state ID card of some sort and a voter's registration card. If the ID is for voting privileges only it should be free, of course. But these things will never happen because politicians on both sides would rather cheat than do the right thing. The only difference between them is one side seems more subtle than the other, but both want the same thing.
Meh I just assume all elections are rigged some way or another.
I don't think that impersonation fraud is a significant problem. It's way too much trouble for just a single vote.
I think the real fraud occurs after the polls close, when poll workers could fill out extra ballots and forge signatures for the people who didn't show up. When there are districts where over 100% of the voters 'voted' that's a smoking gun for that kind of fraud (except that it's never questioned by those who have the authority to prosecute such crime).
Quote:I don't think that impersonation fraud is a significant problem. It's way too much trouble for just a single vote.
I think the real fraud occurs after the polls close, when poll workers could fill out extra ballots and forge signatures for the people who didn't show up. When there are districts where over 100% of the voters 'voted' that's a smoking gun for that kind of fraud (except that it's never questioned by those who have the authority to prosecute such crime).
Exactly! Or much more specifically- when a whole box of absentee ballots are never counted, and then are discovered later after the election...
Quote:I think most people are saying that it happens so much that the results aren't accurate. Whether or not it influenced the outcome is irrelevant. Voter fraud is voter fraud. It isn't mantra when it's actually been proven.
I think you are incorrect when you say "most people". I believe most of the noise we hear about voter fraud is fear mongering, making an occasional problem caused mainly by technical malfunctions and procedural mistakes appear to be a concerted effort to steal elections.
We need to get Al Franken's people on this.
Quote:I think you are incorrect when you say "most people". I believe most of the noise we hear about voter fraud is fear mongering, making an occasional problem caused mainly by technical malfunctions and procedural mistakes appear to be a concerted effort to steal elections.
You really believe neither side makes concerted efforts to steal elections?