Quote:Highly doubt that.
FSU is damn good and have athletes that are on par or better than any SEC school. They are also well coached and make great halftime adjustments.
FSU would beat both Mississippi schools, and I think they'll get a chance later this year.
I'd really love to make some sort of avatar bet on this.
Quote:FSU has been so good about making sure their investigations were done properly too.
Is it actually case closed on that? or is that you speculating? gurley got busted for the same exact thing and i read that there were upwards of one thousand signed items from winston. sounds like a case of where there is smoke there is fire.
Except Winston hasn't been linked to any autograph collector but go on.
Quote:I'd really love to make some sort of avatar bet on this.
Remind me what Jameis' win percentage against the SEC is. Hint: It's the same as it is against every other conference he's played...
Quote:Remind me what Jameis' win percentage against the SEC is. Hint: It's the same as it is against every other conference he's played...
I don't think anywhere I said that Winston already lost to any SEC team.
Pretty sure I said that this year, Florida state would get smashed by ole miss or miss st.
Quote:Except Winston hasn't been linked to any autograph collector but go on.
He is 100% linked to the same company that gurley is. Apparently there is just no evidence of any money changing hands.
Quote:There is nothing to the autograph thing. FSU found no proof of him taking money.
Lol, how do you know all this? You read it on another FSU message board? Come on....
If the rumors that he had over 2000 autographs on Ebay, and the local autograph guy here said they look like a signing...there's something to it. He's not going to sign that many to be a nice guy....just because they were smart enough not to give a receipt doesn't mean no money exchanged hands. Please tell me you aren't that neive.
Quote:Except Winston hasn't been linked to any autograph collector but go on.
He actually has been linked to an autograph collector...they just cant prove money changed hands. If you believe money didnt change hands, you are as big a homer as it gets.
Quote:Lol, how do you know all this? You read it on another FSU message board? Come on....
If the rumors that he had over 2000 autographs on Ebay, and the local autograph guy here said they look like a signing...there's something to it. He's not going to sign that many to be a nice guy....just because they were smart enough not to give a receipt doesn't mean no money exchanged hands. Please tell me you aren't that neive.
The athletic director said they found no evidence in a statement he released last week.
There are literally thousands of Winston autographs out there. He would sign autographs for an hour, sometimes even an hour and a half before baseball games. He signs stuff for people all the time.
Did he take money? Probably. But until there is proof cash was exchanged, it really doesn't matter.
Quote:The athletic director said they found no evidence in a statement he released last week.
There are literally thousands of Winston autographs out there. He would sign autographs for an hour, sometimes even an hour and a half before baseball games. He signs stuff for people all the time.
Did he take money? Probably. But until there is proof cash was exchanged, it really doesn't matter.
I agree with your last point but in terms of him doing autograph signings, the collector stated that the way they were cataloged, there is no way that they were turned in by fans.
He said all of them were registered at once, so all of the fans (say if they each had 2 items, 500 fans)would have had to go to the collector at the same time.
Quote:The athletic director said they found no evidence in a statement he released last week.
There are literally thousands of Winston autographs out there. He would sign autographs for an hour, sometimes even an hour and a half before baseball games. He signs stuff for people all the time.
Did he take money? Probably. But until there is proof cash was exchanged, it really doesn't matter.
That's fine and I agree with your take. It seems like lately there are too many fans out there basically saying he is getting the raw end of the deal from the media. He's put himself in all these situations by his actions...it all seems deserved.
It was a great game Saturday and for some reason there was not one thought for me the whole time that FSU wouldn't pull it out. They have too many players....and that freshman receiver is going to be really good. That defense needs to tighten up just a bit and they will win the title again.
Honestly, no athlete should be suspended for taking money signing their own name.
Quote:That's fine and I agree with your take. It seems like lately there are too many fans out there basically saying he is getting the raw end of the deal from the media. He's put himself in all these situations by his actions...it all seems deserved.
It was a great game Saturday and for some reason there was not one thought for me the whole time that FSU wouldn't pull it out. They have too many players....and that freshman receiver is going to be really good. That defense needs to tighten up just a bit and they will win the title again.
I thought we were going to lose after they converted the 4th and long. Felt like fate.
Also, I thought the play calling at the end by Jimbo was terrible. Jameis was on fire and he took the ball out of the best players hands. He then depended on our defense which isn't that good and we very easily could have lost.
Quote:I thought we were going to lose after they converted the 4th and long. Felt like fate.
Also, I thought the play calling at the end by Jimbo was terrible. Jameis was on fire and he took the ball out of the best players hands. He then depended on our defense which isn't that good and we very easily could have lost.
Yeah, coach's get way too conservative when they get a lead in the 4th. I almost think they worry about perception at the end where people are questioning their aggressiveness and if they just took care of the ball they would have been ok.
Double edge sword. Jimbo sucks...send him to UCF.
If you go read through the stories about the autograph dealers, they also found large numbers of Mariota items, Clowney items from a year ago, and most of the other big names. Whether they're all getting paid or there is some kind of wink-wink-nudge-nudge deal the top guys have in place that is technically legal, Winston shouldn't be getting any more flak than the others.
There would have to be two SEC teams get in to keep FSU out with one loss. The only way I see that happening is if UGA beats an undefeated team from the West in the championship game AND the game is really close AND the committee views the SEC West as really a separate conference from the SEC East AND the right team wins the BIG 12 AND the right team wins the PAC 12. Pretty darn unlikely.
Quote:I thought we were going to lose after they converted the 4th and long. Felt like fate.
Also, I thought the play calling at the end by Jimbo was terrible. Jameis was on fire and he took the ball out of the best players hands. He then depended on our defense which isn't that good and we very easily could have lost.
I thought they should have lined up in the shotgun and run some kind of screen on first down. They hadn't run hardly any screens that game and you knew Notre Dame would be coming full bore on the 6. The right kind of screen is a virtually guaranteed completion, would stay in bounds, and shouldn't be a risk for a big loss. WR tunnel screen or TE screen come to mind.
Quote:If you go read through the stories about the autograph dealers, they also found large numbers of Mariota items, Clowney items from a year ago, and most of the other big names. Whether they're all getting paid or there is some kind of wink-wink-nudge-nudge deal the top guys have in place that is technically legal, Winston shouldn't be getting any more flak than the others.
They should all get the same....if it wasn't for Johnny Football you probably wouldnt have heard about any of this. Unfortunately for Jameis he's had some other issues, and this just adds to the fire.
Quote:There is nothing to the autograph thing. FSU found no proof of him taking money.
For their sake, and Winston's I hope they are right. If the NCAA finds something they'll get a hammer dropped on them.
Quote:Honestly, no athlete should be suspended for taking money signing their own name.
Im with you, but, as the rule sits now it can't be done. Doesn't matter what we think or seems right.
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