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Quote:You and people keep citing empty "rhetoric" like the above, and I'll keep pointing to comments like JDR's "no more 3 yards and a cloud of dust offense"....

 

Deeds not words. Talk is cheap. 

 

The offense I've seen in the past 6 quarters is in direct contrast of Fisch's empty rhetoric up there. 

LOL. That's BORTLES not Fisch I quoted. Pay attention.   JDR has zero to do with this. You look like a crazy person citing him.  

 

Your 6 quarters beef is and will continue to be absolutely laughable.  6 quarters.  You've determined what Fisch is telling him and what he's thinking at the line of scrimmage based on 6 quarters of football by a rookie.  ABsolutely ridiculous.  You are making ill informed assumptions and claiming them as gospel. Stop.

Quote:LOL. That's BORTLES not Fisch I quoted. Pay attention.   JDR has zero to do with this. You look like a crazy person citing him.  

 

Your 6 quarters beef is and will continue to be absolutely laughable.  6 quarters.  You've determined what Fisch is telling him and what he's thinking at the line of scrimmage based on 6 quarters of football by a rookie.  ABsolutely ridiculous.  You are making ill informed assumptions and claiming them as gospel. Stop.

 

JDR's quote was relevant to show you how all the stupid "rhetoric" from players and coaches means nothing. 

 

If you go by what you see and not by what they say, you'll be a lot less confused. 

 

 

Deeds, not words. 

Nevermind.  You've obviously lost your marbles on this one.  Sorry I'm so confused.  

All this over six quarters....six.


Unbelievable.

If Bortles see FEASTMODE in the huddle, he knows that he's going to audible to a passing play.

Quote:You and people keep citing empty "rhetoric" like the above, and I'll keep pointing to comments like JDR's "no more 3 yards and a cloud of dust offense"....

 

Deeds not words. Talk is cheap. 

 

NYC4jags pointed out how Bortles was looking deep when he took a sack, and he had options running deep but threw short instead.

 

Basically, he pointed out in-game evidence showing that Fisch doesn't appear to handcuff him, and he pointed to commentary after the game showing the same thing. You wont accept either one. How about you tell us what would be acceptable?

Quote:NYC4jags pointed out how Bortles was looking deep when he took a sack, and he had options running deep but threw short instead.

 

Basically, he pointed out in-game evidence showing that Fisch doesn't appear to handcuff him, and he pointed to commentary after the game showing the same thing. You wont accept either one. How about you tell us what would be acceptable?

 

Ryan Mallett throwing to Stephen Hill would be the GOAT!

Quote:NYC4jags pointed out how Bortles was looking deep when he took a sack, and he had options running deep but threw short instead.

 

Basically, he pointed out in-game evidence showing that Fisch doesn't appear to handcuff him, and he pointed to commentary after the game showing the same thing. You wont accept either one. How about you tell us what would be acceptable?

 

How is that evidence that Fisch isn't handcuffing him???

 

To be honest - maybe that supports my side even more - as in - Bortles natural instincts have him looking downfield for the deep play, and Bortles second guesses himself to attempt it, because of Fisch and Bradley railing him for the other deep INT's so now all Bortles will settle for (mostly) is the short [BAD WORD REMOVED] these past 6 Q. 

 

Boom! Instant game manager. 

Quote:How is that evidence that Fisch isn't handcuffing him???

 

To be honest - maybe that supports my side even more - as in - Bortles natural instincts have him looking downfield for the deep play, and Bortles second guesses himself to attempt it, because of Fisch and Bradley railing him for the other deep INT's so now all Bortles will settle for (mostly) is the short [BAD WORD REMOVED] these past 6 Q. 

 

Boom! Instant game manager. 

 

One day back and the drama queen is in full effect

it's his girlfriend.... gotta' be the girlfriend.

Quote:NYC4jags pointed out how Bortles was looking deep when he took a sack, and he had options running deep but threw short instead.

 

Basically, he pointed out in-game evidence showing that Fisch doesn't appear to handcuff him, and he pointed to commentary after the game showing the same thing. You wont accept either one. How about you tell us what would be acceptable?

 

You can't convince the delusional.   ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Quote:You can't convince the delusional.   ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

Your pictures don't "prove" anything. Just because Bortles was initially looking downfield doesn't mean he wasn't still going short with the pass. I just gave a scenario that explained what could have been the thought process a few posts above. 

 

Anything short of the DB actually falling down and leaving the WR completely alone and Bortles was going short with the bulk of his actual pass attempts Sunday because thats what Fisch wanted. 

Quote:Your pictures don't "prove" anything. Just because Bortles was initially looking downfield doesn't mean he wasn't still going short with the pass. I just gave a scenario that explained what could have been the thought process a few posts above. 

 

Anything short of the DB actually falling down and leaving the WR completely alone and Bortles was going short with the bulk of his actual pass attempts Sunday because thats what Fisch wanted. 

 

Link?

Quote:Link?

There isn't one. He's convinced he knows what Fisch is telling Bortles behind closed doors as well as what BB5 is thinking at the snap and anything else is false. 

 

All from 6 quarters of rookie quarterbacking -  during which he obviously wasn't his "same old self." You know, like he was in the prior 4 quarters of his entire career. 

Quote:There isn't one. He's convinced he knows what Fisch is telling Bortles behind closed doors as well as what BB5 is thinking at the snap and anything else is false. 

 

All from 6 quarters of rookie quarterbacking -  during which he obviously wasn't his "same old self." You know, like he was in the prior 4 quarters of his entire career.....

 

.....plus all 4 preseason appearances, plus his final year of college play....

Just wondering... what evidence is there to disprove the notion that Bortles was initially looking downfield because of Fisch, and the last 6 quarters of play have been the result of Fisch and Bradley ending the directives and just letting Bortles play?

 

:teehee:

Quote:.....plus all 4 preseason appearances, plus his final year of college play....

You do understand that the preseason and collegiate games are nothing even remotely close to what he has seen in the regular season, right?  Of course you do, until such time as you need to adjust your soiling now that they've pushed Bortles into starting sooner than you wanted.  So, he goes from being a rookie the team should bring along slowly in your estimation to a guy that has a complete grasp of the playbook, and could be elite right now if it wasn't for the coaching.  Which side of the fence will you be on tomorrow?

Quote:.....plus all 4 preseason appearances, plus his final year of college play....

…which mean nothing against starting NFL defenses that are game planning...

 

 

…plus, you said he was on your "most likely to bust" list before the draft. But that last year of college suddenly means something totally different...

 

(   http://jungle.jaguars.com/index.php?/top.../?p=187316   Cooks and Watkins too LOL) 

Quote:Just wondering... what evidence is there to disprove the notion that Bortles was initially looking downfield because of Fisch, and the last 6 quarters of play have been the result of Fisch and Bradley ending the directives and just letting Bortles play?

 

:teehee:

 

In order to locate that evidence, you'll need to send the diva to a proctologist to locate the partiallly digested evidence. 

Quote:…which mean nothing against starting NFL defenses that are game planning...

 

 

…plus, you said he was on your "most likely to bust" list before the draft. But that last year of college suddenly means something totally different...

 

(   http://jungle.jaguars.com/index.php?/top.../?p=187316   Cooks and Watkins too LOL) 

I have lost count of the number of times the diva has been impaled by the fence post he loves to straddle.  It's almost like he enjoys it.