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As soon as he went down our defense died,many big plays given up by prosinsky/evans
Nope.  He hasn't done much.

He is our only good strong safety.

 

Our best player is either Poz or a lineman.

I would not say he is our best but he helps a lot when he is on the field and if healthy he should only get better.
He's our Least Worst player.

Best player on O - M. Lewis

Best player on D - Poz or Marks

Quote:Nope.  He hasn't done much.
 

Please go back to the tinhorn/clot/tack message board you came from.
Quote:Nope.  He hasn't done much.
 

TROLLOLOLOL

 

Wait...TMD???
Quote:Please go back to the tinhorn/clot/tack message board you came from.
 

He asked if he's our best.  He's not our best.  He's only in his second season and only showed flashes.
Quote:Nope. He hasn't done much.


While cyp was on the field we gave up no points
Quote:While Cyp was on the field we gave up no points.
 

While Cyprien was on the field we forced and recovered three fumbles. That was all done by defensive linemen.
Quote:While Cyprien was on the field we forced and recovered three fumbles. That was all done by defensive linemen.


Because foles had no where to throw the ball.... When cyp went down he went deep all game and exposed our safeties
I believe that Cyp coordinates the secondary and plays his assignment correctly.

That doesn't show up in the stats until he's not on the field and his replacements aren't in the right place...
Gus' scheme is very "safety-centric."  Much is asked of them in order for this defense to function well.  Cyprien was beginning to hold up his end and now his replacement is not.  That's the difference we're seeing.  

 

With Cyp healthy and an upgrade at FS next year, this secondary will start to own it's intended identity.  

ehhh dont agree with Poz being our best D player. Definitely Marks 

 

and on O... Bortles

For what it's worth, PFF graded Evans pretty high for his play yesterday (+3.3).....basically said he was the only member of the secondary that didn't look lost.  And, interestingly, Poz's grades were terrible.

Quote:For what it's worth, PFF graded Evans pretty high for his play yesterday (+3.3).....basically said he was the only member of the secondary that didn't look lost.  And, interestingly, Poz's grades were terrible.
 

I'll have to re-watch with him in mind, but I remember at least 3 missed tackles and 2 bad plays in coverage by Evans. He did make a few stops in the run game and broke up two passes to counter that. From what I know of PFF's ratings system that number seems high, but it makes me want to watch him more closely.  
Quote:For what it's worth, PFF graded Evans pretty high for his play yesterday (+3.3).....basically said he was the only member of the secondary that didn't look lost.  And, interestingly, Poz's grades were terrible.
 

Did you see him trying to cover the TE?
Quote:For what it's worth, PFF graded Evans pretty high for his play yesterday (+3.3).....basically said he was the only member of the secondary that didn't look lost.  And, interestingly, Poz's grades were terrible.
 

The guys on 1010 were praising Evans play as well yesterday, again for what it's worth.
Quote:Did you see him trying to cover the TE?
 

Poz is what he is, a 2 down linebacker that struggles in coverage (as he has for years) and doesn't offer anything pass rush wise.
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