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Bleacher Report mock draft 1-5-17
 
I can't wait to see this change a million times but what does everyone think of Jonathan Allen. I doubt he will be the next Jarred Allen  
 
1 Cleveland Browns Myles Garrett, DE, Texas A&M
2 San Francisco 49ers Mitch Trubisky, QB, North Carolina
3 Chicago Bears Deshaun Watson, QB, Clemson
4 Jacksonville Jaguars Jonathan Allen, DE, Alabama
5 Tennessee Titans (from Los Angeles Rams) Malik Hooker, S, Ohio State
6 New York Jets DeShone Kizer, QB, Notre Dame
7 San Diego Chargers Jamal Adams, S, LSU
8 Carolina Panthers Leonard Fournette, RB, LSU
9 Cincinnati Bengals Reuben Foster, LB, Alabama
10 Buffalo Bills Mike Williams, WR, Clemson
11 New Orleans Saints Tim Williams, OLB, Alabama
12 Cleveland Browns (from Philadelphia Eagles) Derek Barnett, DE/OLB, Tennessee
13 Arizona Cardinals Quincy Wilson, CB, Florida
14 Philadelphia Eagles (from Minnesota Vikings) John Ross, WR, Washington
15 Indianapolis Colts Marshon Lattimore, CB, Ohio State
16 Baltimore Ravens Dalvin Cook, RB, Florida State
17 Washington Takkarist McKinley, DE, UCLA
18 Tennessee Titans Corey Davis, WR, Western Michigan
19 Tampa Bay Buccaneers Teez Tabor, CB, Florida
20 Denver Broncos Ryan Ramczyk, OT, Wisconsin
21 Detroit Lions Taco Charlton, DE, Michigan
22 Miami Dolphins Malik McDowell, DT, Michigan State
23 New York Giants Cam Robinson, OT, Alabama
24 Oakland Raiders O.J. Howard, TE, Alabama
25 Houston Texans Solomon Thomas, DL, Stanford:
26 Green Bay Packers Jabrill Peppers, S, Michigan
27 Seattle Seahawks Garett Bolles, OT, Utah
28 Pittsburgh Steelers Marlon Humphrey, CB, Alabama
29 Atlanta Falcons Jourdan Lewis, CB, Michigan
30 Kansas City Chiefs Zach Cunningham, LB, Vanderbilt
31 Dallas Cowboys Sidney Jones, CB, Washington
32 New England Patriots Christian McCaffrey, RB, Stanford

IMO I think Johnathan Allen would be a very underwhelming pick. Where would he play?

Quote:IMO I think Johnathan Allen would be a very underwhelming pick. Where would he play?

I agree. Probably should take Hooker or Fournette. Or better yet trade down to the 18th pick and take OL players like Ramczyk and Robison and then with your new found second round pick take another OL player .

>There are still people who think Deshaun Watson is a first round pick

Jonathan Allen is the best player in the draft. You find somewhere to play him. Or move to a 3-4 D. He is the type of player you build a defense around.

Quote:>There are still people who think Deshaun Watson is a first round pick

He is though.

I have a gut feeling that Mitch Trubisky is going to stay in school. 

I would love Allen to be there at 4 but I doubt it. If he's there he's the pick.

Quote:IMO I think Johnathan Allen would be a very underwhelming pick. Where would he play?

Didn't people say the same thing about Leonard Williams? 

 

He is a stud and would make an immediate impact.

Jonathan Allen is 2x the player Leonard Williams was. He is on the level of Aaron Donald and Sun as a prospect.

Quote:Jonathan Allen is 2x the player Leonard Williams was. He is on the level of Aaron Donald and Sun as a prospect.

I totally agree.


But when the Jets drafted Leonard they said "well where is he going to play? They got Sheldon and Wilkerson."


Allen is so good that he can play multiple positions.

Allen is a beast. Find room on that defense and play him

Move to a 3-4

 

Malik-Abry-Allen

Fowler-Poz-Telvin/Jack-Ngakoue

Quote:Didn't people say the same thing about Leonard Williams? 

 

He is a stud and would make an immediate impact.

 

People are afraid of DE's that weigh over 250 and don't run 4.5 

 

Williams would have been a fantastic 3 Technique here, you wouldn't need Jackson or you still sign Jackson and maybe this year you add Poe or Allen could play the 1 tech ver well I think 

 

5 Tech  - Jackson

1/3 Tech - Allen

3/5 Tech - Williams

 

Smith

Poz

Jack/Skuta

Yannick/Jack

 

That's a pretty nasty front 7 

Quote:>There are still people who think Deshaun Watson is a first round pick

 

Yeah, I remember people talking about tanking for Watson. I could see him taking a hard fall out of the first round much like Geno Smith did to round 3 or 4 if nobody bites. I posted in another thread about the QB's being over drafted to our advantage of trading back. This is a weak class, Watson, Kizer and really all of them have poor mechanics and are bad decision makers too. These are guys with upside, but truly boom or bust project type players. Watson is not the prospect the media made him out to be last year.

Kizer, Watson and probably Trubisky are better prospects than Goff and Wentz were last year.

I surely hope that getting closer to the draft some QBs start being projected at 1-2-3  so that Allen can be there at 4. Having Malik Jackson and Allen on the same line, just wow, regardless of the scheme.

Quote:Kizer, Watson and probably Trubisky are better prospects than Goff and Wentz were last year.

 

 

Wentz is better than all of them. Kizer and Watson are on par with Goff.

Best thing about Allen he is a really safe pick no way he could be a bust. I would prefer to trade back in the draft though. 

I'm kind of liking Jamal Adams to replace Cyp. Even though Cyp has played well as of late, I'm liking what I see from this kid. I don't know at #5, but maybe...

But I won't disagree that we have bigger needs than SS right now. So there's that too.