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Quote:As a product of a child who came from a mother and father who got whippin's as early as 6 years old, I learned early on how not to break the rules, and always tell the truth.

 

This may come to a shock as some, but I have seen parents spank, or whip their toddlers as young as the baby we learned of in this report.

 

The only difference is it involved a athlete and it became public. 

 

For the record, I have 2 daughters, and I have never, or will spank them, because I leave that duty to the mother who we both discussed will only spank them to stop any bad behavior from continuing. 

 

You know people who leave marks and bruises on their 4 year old?

Quote:As a product of a child who came from a mother and father who got whippin's as early as 6 years old, I learned early on how not to break the rules, and always tell the truth.

 

This may come to a shock as some, but I have seen parents spank, or whip their toddlers as young as the baby we learned of in this report.

 

The only difference is it involved a athlete and it became public. 

 

For the record, I have 2 daughters, and I have never, or will spank them, because I leave that duty to the mother who we both discussed will only spank them to stop any bad behavior from continuing. 

They 'spanked' them hard enough to leave "cuts and bruises to the child’s back, buttocks, ankles, legs and scrotum, along with defensive wounds to the child’s hands."?


As someone who didn't get "whippin's" I learned to not break rules and always tell the truth by methods of discipline that didn't involve inflicting physical harm on a child. Shocking, right?

Quote:They 'spanked' them hard enough to leave "cuts and bruises to the child’s back, buttocks, ankles, legs and scrotum, along with defensive wounds to the child’s hands."?


As someone who didn't get "whippin's" I learned to not break rules and always tell the truth by methods of discipline that didn't involve inflicting physical harm on a child. Shocking, right?

You and I both learned how to not break the rules by a method I like to call parenting.


Whippings (not open palm spanking) are a product of a person's lack of parenting skills and in my opinion a simple way for simple people to cope with the stressors of raising a child. Sure it also has a result of being a punishment for poor behavior but at what cost to the child both mentally and emotionally. Ask a person why they give whippings to their kids and 9/10 times it because they got them growing up. Dumb reason.

Quote:Ask a person why they give whippings to their kids and 9/10 times it because they got them growing up. Dumb reason.

 

"I got whippings when I was a kid and it didn't do me any harm."

 

Yeah, except for turning you into the sort of person who physically abuses children.

Quote:Those pictures break my heart. I have a 5 year old daughter, and just cannot fathom having to spank her like that. A stern talking to is all she needs from me.


Like everyone that has said before, how a person parents is their business. What AP did was not parenting.


I got spanked when I was a kid. And I'm not ruling out having to spank my daugher or my son (who's only 2), but at this point, I don't think I could ever bring myself to doing it.


Also, the problem with today's youth isn't because they aren't spanked hard like back when we were growing up, in my opinion. The problem I think is that alot of kids now a days has to do with economics and the changing nature of technologies. I could go deeper, but I don't think this is the right thread for it.


At any rate, AP is in alot of trouble if those pictures on the first page are his son and he was the one that inflicted those wounds to him.

Good post anchorman. I like it when people dig a little deeper. The kids youth just need a good ole fashion [BLEEP] whoopin' to be succesful!!!

Quote:1. What AP did was sick. No excuses for that.


2. Eric, wouldn't libertarians say "leave parenting to the parents, not the government"?

I agree until that persons crosses the line. Again what AP did wasn't parenting. It was abuse.

Quote:As a product of a child who came from a mother and father who got whippin's as early as 6 years old, I learned early on how not to break the rules, and always tell the truth.


This may come to a shock as some, but I have seen parents spank, or whip their toddlers as young as the baby we learned of in this report.


The only difference is it involved a athlete and it became public.


For the record, I have 2 daughters, and I have never, or will spank them, because I leave that duty to the mother who we both discussed will only spank them to stop any bad behavior from continuing.

That's great, but theres a difference between spanking and what AP did. You don't have to abuse your child to teach them how to not lie, be responsible, do their homework, not back talk, etc... as a society we should strive to be better.


It isn't the only difference that he is a public figure. Anyone who took their kid in to the Dr would probably have child services called on them with the marks that were left on that 4 year old. Public eye or spotlight is bigger sure, but to pretend a regular person wouldn't be in deep [BLEEP] is being disingenuous.

Quote:Yup. A pretty cooky bunch.

There are cooky people in every single party. I've seen Republicans say some unbelievably repulsive things and Democrats act like their [BLEEP] don't stink and teach tolerance but don't always walk the walk. Granted this isn't everyone.

Quote:"I got whippings when I was a kid and it didn't do me any harm."


Yeah, except for turning you into the sort of person who physically abuses children.

This excuse is just wrong on so many levels. My dad was an alcoholic growing up and I turned out fine... I guess that means I should be an alcoholic!

Quote:"I got whippings when I was a kid and it didn't do me any harm."


Yeah, except for turning you into the sort of person who physically abuses children.

Cycle of violence is a real thing.

First, let me say that what AP did was wrong and sickening.

 

Second, I'd like to ask if you all disagree with spankings, too. I'm not asking if you give spankings or not, but rather do you find parents that do give spankings repulsive?

 

Third, what about other sorts of "physical punishment". My dad use to quickly and harmlessly pull the tiny little hairs on the back of my neck if I was extremely out of line. There was really no lasting effects, but it sure got the point across. It reminds me of how Caeser Millan and his "Tsst!" routine.

Quote:First, let me say that what AP did was wrong and sickening.


Second, I'd like to ask if you all disagree with spankings, too. I'm not asking if you give spankings or not, but rather do you find parents that do give spankings repulsive?


Third, what about other sorts of "physical punishment". My dad use to quickly and harmlessly pull the tiny little hairs on the back of my neck if I was extremely out of line. There was really no lasting effects, but it sure got the point across. It reminds me of how Caeser Millan and his "Tsst!" routine.

I'm not a spanker, but if done appropriately and more importantly not out of anger, it can be effective. I think there are more effective ways then spanking, but I don't think it should be outlawed.


That's pretty funny about your dad. I don't see anything wrong with that. There will always be some grey areas, but hard to make a case for Peterson. It seems pretty black and white to me (which you agree).

Quote:I'm not a spanker, but if done appropriately and more importantly not out of anger, it can be effective. I think there are more effective ways then spanking, but I don't think it should be outlawed.


That's pretty funny about your dad. I don't see anything wrong with that. There will always be some grey areas, but hard to make a case for Peterson. It seems pretty black and white to me (which you agree).

 

Yup, definitely agree. I'm not a parent yet, so my questions were actually sincere and not meant to be combative.

Quote:First, let me say that what AP did was wrong and sickening.


Second, I'd like to ask if you all disagree with spankings, too. I'm not asking if you give spankings or not, but rather do you find parents that do give spankings repulsive?


Third, what about other sorts of "physical punishment". My dad use to quickly and harmlessly pull the tiny little hairs on the back of my neck if I was extremely out of line. There was really no lasting effects, but it sure got the point across. It reminds me of how Caeser Millan and his "Tsst!" routine.

I don't have an issue with spanking but what Peterson did is abuse. No place in society for that.


Even worse was he seemed to show no remorse for what he did. It's like he doesn't even know its wrong.

Quote:I don't have an issue with spanking but what Peterson did is abuse. No place in society for that.


Even worse was he seemed to show no remorse for what he did. It's like he doesn't even know its wrong.

 

I'm with you.

I got spanked as a kid and I spank my 3. As many above have said, theres a difference between an open handed swat on the bottom and full on beating. As my father and drill instructors both told me, "Pain retains". A sore [BLEEP] always helped me remember what I did wrong, and made me not want to do it again. Physically cutting the skin of a 4 year old though? Sickening...

Our four year old became a huge handfull recently, so my wife and I developed a system of consequences. He has a chart that goes from purple to red. Purple means he gets a reward for good behavior, and red means he gets a consequence. The first of these is a spanking with a short, ornate wooden spoon. We never spank him hard (we can't get power behind it even if we wanted to), but the psychological effect usually does the trick. He goes to the corner if he continues to misbehave, followed by what we call "totem poles" where he stands up straight with his arms out beside him for five minutes.


Boy, it straightened him up quick! He doesn't fear us, and we have a protection against disciplining in anger. Spanking isn't bad--it's how it's used. AP definitely crossed the line.

Quote:You know people who leave marks and bruises on their 4 year old?

 

Yep, and I had marks on me.

 

I didnt call Child services, because it was explained to me that to avoid future whippings, just be respectful, behave, and be honest.

 

Quote:They 'spanked' them hard enough to leave "cuts and bruises to the child’s back, buttocks, ankles, legs and scrotum, along with defensive wounds to the child’s hands."?


As someone who didn't get "whippin's" I learned to not break rules and always tell the truth by methods of discipline that didn't involve inflicting physical harm on a child. Shocking, right?

 

No its not shocking.

 

Some people learn from both physical and verbal discipline.

Quote:That's great, but theres a difference between spanking and what AP did. You don't have to abuse your child to teach them how to not lie, be responsible, do their homework, not back talk, etc... as a society we should strive to be better.


It isn't the only difference that he is a public figure. Anyone who took their kid in to the Dr would probably have child services called on them with the marks that were left on that 4 year old. Public eye or spotlight is bigger sure, but to pretend a regular person wouldn't be in deep [BAD WORD REMOVED] is being disingenuous.

 

People get called on for spanking their child in the rear one time as well. 

 

When I think of child abuse, I think of children's bones, limbs being broken along with being starved to death and sexually assaulted.

Quote:Yep, and I had marks on me.

 

I didnt call Child services, because it was explained to me that to avoid future whippings, just be respectful, behave, and be honest.

 

So is it alright if I take a switch to my wife if she starts acting up?  I can leave as many marks on her as I wish, as long as I don't break any limbs or starve her to death?