Quote:Where have you been while the Jaguars made him a full-time running back? Denard is only listed as a WR on the roster because he wanted to wear his college number -which, under NFL rules, cannot be worn by running backs. We have a whole thread about that.
Percy Harvin has always been a wide receiver and punt returner in the NFL. In college he split time with Jeff Demps. Denard Robinson was a quarterback who knew while recovering from a right shoulder injury he would have to change positions in the NFL.
So why are you trying to compare two guys who have always played different positions?
I don't think one thing about this post is correct.
Quote:Where have you been while the Jaguars made him a full-time running back? Denard is only listed as a WR on the roster because he wanted to wear his college number -which, under NFL rules, cannot be worn by running backs. We have a whole thread about that.
Percy Harvin has always been a wide receiver and punt returner in the NFL. In college he split time with Jeff Demps. Denard Robinson was a quarterback who knew while recovering from a right shoulder injury he would have to change positions in the NFL.
So why are you trying to compare two guys who have always played different positions?
Because they have the same body type and both have dynamic speed. Percy Harvin receives as many touches via pitch or hand off as he does receiving passes, in fact Thursday I'm pretty sure he had more touches via hand off than he did receiving. Harvin is truely an "offensive weapon," the role originally intended for Robinson.
Quote:Where have you been while the Jaguars made him a full-time running back? Denard is only listed as a WR on the roster because he wanted to wear his college number -which, under NFL rules, cannot be worn by running backs. We have a whole thread about that.
Percy Harvin has always been a wide receiver and punt returner in the NFL. In college he split time with Jeff Demps. Denard Robinson was a quarterback who knew while recovering from a right shoulder injury he would have to change positions in the NFL.
So why are you trying to compare two guys who have always played different positions?
I just... smh
Denard isn't Percy. But I would hope that with development he could be our "poor-mans" Percy. I'd be good with that.
Quote:I just... smh
Denard isn't Percy. But I would hope that with development he could be our "poor-mans" Percy. I'd be good with that.
Because Denard is not as fast? Or does not have the experience yet? I don't see Harvin do things exceptionally great other than speed.
Quote:Because Denard is not as fast? Or does not have the experience yet? I don't see Harvin do things exceptionally great other than speed.
I'd say straight line speed they're about equal. Harvins short area quickness and ability to make guys miss is something that really separates him from Denard
This is really interesting. I don't have any idea what kinds of weird offensive concepts Gus Bradley has in mind. Unlike Carroll, he's kind of conservative. A lot of Seahawks fans blame him for being too soft on defense a couple years ago at the end of the Atlanta playoff game. They were 36 seconds from victory, and he was playing dime defense against Julio Jones, Roddy White, and the worlds greatest tight end in the world. The truth was three things: 1)Tony Gonzales, 2)losing their best pass rusher in Chris Clemmons by ripping up his ACL on the same day that RGIII did on that crappy field in Washington, and 3) The most brutal travel schedule in NFL playoff history.
I have always loved Denard Robinson, except when he was throwing the football. I couldn't believe he was a Heisman Trophy Candidate, but then you look at his measurables. Robinson ran a faster 40 at the combine than Percy Harvin. He's a couple inches taller and about ten pounds heavier.
Of course, this was before Harvin got the hip surgery. I folllowed Seahawks training camp very closely and kept hearing two things from every outside observer: 1)This is the fastest team in the NFL, and 2)Percy Harvin and Earl Thomas are on a completely other level of speed. In fact, Harvin was getting a heavy dose of one on one with Harvin that sometimes got a little chippy.
But, yeah, I could see him doing it. I'd love to see him do it. I really like Denard Robinson as an athlete in this mold. He might only be Dexter McCluster, but would you take that?
I think this might be his niche.
Quote:I'd say straight line speed they're about equal. Harvins short area quickness and ability to make guys miss is something that really separates him from Denard
I just don't see that, well not Thursday night anyway. I don't see exceptional stop and go or cuts from Harvin. I don't really have a feel for how they compare in acceleration.
Quote:I just don't see that, well not Thursday night anyway. I don't see exceptional stop and go or cuts from Harvin. I don't really have a feel for how they compare in acceleration.
Lol are you kidding? Do you know what your watching. Harvin is of the most dynamic players in the league.
Quote:Lol are you kidding? Do you know what your watching. Harvin is of the most dynamic players in the league.
Really, does he run out of bounds or try to shake for more? Dynamic speed yes, dynamic moves no, dynamic vision no, dynamic hands no.
Quote:Really, does he run out of bounds or try to shake for more? Dynamic speed yes, dynamic moves no, dynamic vision no, dynamic hands no.
You don't know what your watching then. I haven't seen him drop many passes. Dynamoc hands yes, dynamic speed yes, dynamic moves yes.
Quote:You don't know what your watching then. I haven't seen him drop many passes. Dynamoc hands yes, dynamic speed yes, dynamic moves yes.
I really only watched him thursday, there was no evidence of dynamic moves or hands in that game. I can't remember any circus catches or juking anybody out of his shoes from him anytime, him blazing right by people all the time.
Quote:Hogwash
He covers as much field as he can in as little time as possible, that's what he does and he does that really well, than he goes out of bounds. Let's not act like he's going up after balls shielding off defenders, or spinning back in the air to grab the ball while he goes to the ground, he doesn't slow up to then put a move on a defender, he doesn't do those things. I'm sure you can find an example or two but for the most part, he covers lots of field in short periods of time and then goes out of bounds. Dude certainly is not breaking tackles.
Quote:He covers as much field as he can in as little time as possible, that's what he does and he does that really well, than he goes out of bounds. Let's not act like he's going up after balls shielding off defenders, or spinning back in the air to grab the ball while he goes to the ground, he doesn't slow up to then put a move on a defender, he doesn't do those things. I'm sure you can find an example or two but for the most part, he covers lots of field in short periods of time and then goes out of bounds. Dude certainly is not breaking tackles.
How many times have you seen one person bring down percy harvin?
Quote:Wow, I didn't know Harvin was put on such a pedestal is that just because of Thursday night? I don't see some great exceptional football player, I just see a player with a tremendous amount of speed. It's not like the guy has incredible vision and finds holes through a crowd, he doesn't make cuts or change direction like Sanders, he doesn't make incredibley acrobatic catches. I can't remember him laying out or going up for balls. I just see a guy who runs away and by people. He's also missed several games, maybe he just did that while playing for the vikings because he didn't want to be there.
Are you a Gator hater? Percy does what he needs to do, which is catch footballs and run with them. Denard would tie his shoes before he can be a good wide receiver.
Quote:How many times have you seen one person bring down percy harvin?
I've seen them run him out of bounds many times. Let's not act like Harvin is a physical pounding back that's looking for contact, that is absolutely who he is not.
Quote:lol Percy is much more talented than D Rob
and that's no knock against him.
yea Harvin has been a WR/ATH his whole life, Robinson has been a QB most of his life, tho he has the skill set but Harvin is programmed to be that kinda player
Quote:I've seen them run him out of bounds many times. Let's not act like Harvin is a physical pounding back that's looking for contact, that is absolutely who he is not.
How many yards does he run before going out of bounds? Is there room to run in front of him? You should know going out of bounds does not always mean a guy is being lazy.
Quote:Are you a Gator hater? Percy does what he needs to do, which is catch footballs and run with them. Denard would tie his shoes before he can be a good wide receiver.
I hate all college football, extremely boring compared to the pro game. The SEC is getting there.
Quote:I really only watched him thursday, there was no evidence of dynamic moves or hands in that game. I can't remember any circus catches or juking anybody out of his shoes from him anytime, him blazing right by people all the time.
Lol you watched Harvin one night and now your an expert on him?
I been watching Harvin since he was the number one recruit in high school, to the Gators and now the NFL, he has rare talent, for what he can do there is not another player in the NFL on his level, can be an outside WR, Slot WR, RB, split back, PR, KR, the guy is a game changer and one of the top 5 in the NFL at that