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Quote:Nah, that was actually Bledsoe in 1996, IIRC. 

 

Brady didn't become a Patriot until 2000 and didn't start until the following year. 

oh yeah... sometimes i type faster than I think.

Quote:oh yeah... sometimes i type faster than I think.

 

I have no idea what you're talking about.... :whistling:  

Quote:I can still remember how still the NEZ was as Andersen queued up for that kick.  We sat in 217 at the time, so we were in the corner and didn't have a good angle on the kick, so I just watched the reaction of the people behind the goal posts.  As soon as that section erupted, so did the rest of the stadium.  The ball hadn't even gotten to the net yet.  Incredible moment. 

 

Agreed.  There is nothing better than NFL football, even if your home team happens to be downright awful. 

 

I couldn't bring myself to watch.

 

I was at the top of the stadium, looking over the side, rationalizing to myself and another guy that 8-8 is a good record for a 2nd year team...yada yada yada and trying to dampen the disappointment sure to come. 

 

Then complete pandemonium.

 

Jubilation.

 

Numbness and amazement walking down the ramps as people tried figuring out how Morten missed and thankful he did.

 

It's been a great 20 years...and just imagine what it will be like to raise a championship banner or five in the stadium.

Henne, Bortles... either or both could take us to the playoffs with how bad this division is.

Quote:Henne, Bortles... either or both could take us to the playoffs with how bad this division is.

 

Outside of a miracle, Chad Henne is not leading this team to the playoffs.

Quote:Henne, Bortles... either or both could take us to the playoffs with how bad this division is.

A lot...and I mean A LOT would have to go right for this team to make the playoffs...ESPECIALLY with Henne.

Quote:Henne, Bortles... either or both could take us to the playoffs with how bad this division is.

 

Henne is too inconsistent. I think with Henne best case would be 8-8. 

Quote:A lot...and I mean A LOT would have to go right for this team to make the playoffs...ESPECIALLY with Henne.

It's not impossible.  Improbable?  Yes.  But not impossible.  This franchise is deserving of a few good bounces for a change. 

Quote:It's not impossible.  Improbable?  Yes.  But not impossible.  This franchise is deserving of a few good bounces for a change. 

 

Of course it isn't impossible.

 

There's about an equal chance of me being struck by lightning, though, as Henne leading this years team to the playoffs.  He's simply not good enough, consistently enough, to do it. 

Quote:It's not impossible.  Improbable?  Yes.  But not impossible.  This franchise is deserving of a few good bounces for a change. 

 

Given how 1996 unfolded (since we have been reminiscing and it is the 20th season), I agree it isn't impossible.  But again...a LOT has to go right.

 

2015?  I would be far more comfortable predicting playoffs then.

Quote:Given how 1996 unfolded (since we have been reminiscing and it is the 20th season), I agree it isn't impossible.  But again...a LOT has to go right.

 

2015?  I would be far more comfortable predicting playoffs then.

 

Everything is pointing to 2015, just as everything was pointing to 1997.  We've seen it happen before, and we're in the best division for things to go our way.  If the defense lives up to expectations and shows significant improvement, and Henne has an efficient, game manager type season similar to Garrard in 2007, this team could be sneaky good.  And if the team makes a transition to Bortles, it could be even better.  I'm not discounting a possible playoff run just because we've been in a similar situation before and we've seen how things can fall into place.  Even with Henne as QB, there's a path this team could wind up on that leads to the post season, or at least a serious run at it. 

Quote:Of course it isn't impossible.

 

There's about an equal chance of me being struck by lightning, though, as Henne leading this years team to the playoffs.  He's simply not good enough, consistently enough, to do it. 

If Henne were to start the entire year (I'm doubtful this will happen), all he would need to do is limit the mistakes.  He doesn't have to become Peyton Manning or Tom Brady.  Just minimize the mistakes on the offense, and you'll see marked improvement. 

 

For the team to make the playoffs under Henne, he needs to play efficiently, and the defense needs to meet and even exceed expectations for this year.  These are two things that can definitely happen, and in a division as down as the AFCS is this year, the odds aren't nearly as long as some folks might think.  If Bortles does step in (which I do expect to see happen), the odds get even better for this team. 

 

Do I think this team makes the post season this year?  No.  But I do think they're going to be better than most expect.  If things fall their way, there's no reason to think they couldn't find their way back in the playoffs sooner than expected. 

Quote:If Henne were to start the entire year (I'm doubtful this will happen), all he would need to do is limit the mistakes.  He doesn't have to become Peyton Manning or Tom Brady.  Just minimize the mistakes on the offense, and you'll see marked improvement. 

 

For the team to make the playoffs under Henne, he needs to play efficiently, and the defense needs to meet and even exceed expectations for this year.  These are two things that can definitely happen, and in a division as down as the AFCS is this year, the odds aren't nearly as long as some folks might think.  If Bortles does step in (which I do expect to see happen), the odds get even better for this team. 

 

Do I think this team makes the post season this year?  No.  But I do think they're going to be better than most expect.  If things fall their way, there's no reason to think they couldn't find their way back in the playoffs sooner than expected. 

I'm not too certain how "down" the division is this year.

 

The Colts have their weaknesses, but they did win in the playoffs last year, and as long as they have a healthy Luck, they will be a threat.

 

I don't know about how viable the Texans' offense will be, especially with the uncertainty at QB and a new scheme.  But their defense should be formidable with Watt and Clowney.

 

The stinkin' tacks are transitioning to a 3-4 and it may take time for it to take hold, but they have some good coaches, and it Mettenberger can solidify their QB situation (I am not sold on Locker), they will be tough, too.

 

Are there some vulnerabilities in the other teams?  Absolutely.

 

Are the Jaguars team enough to take advantage of them?  Unknown.

Quote:I'm not too certain how "down" the division is this year.

 

The Colts have their weaknesses, but they did win in the playoffs last year, and as long as they have a healthy Luck, they will be a threat.

 

I don't know about how viable the Texans' offense will be, especially with the uncertainty at QB and a new scheme.  But their defense should be formidable with Watt and Clowney.

 

The stinkin' tacks are transitioning to a 3-4 and it may take time for it to take hold, but they have some good coaches, and it Mettenberger can solidify their QB situation (I am not sold on Locker), they will be tough, too.

 

Are there some vulnerabilities in the other teams?  Absolutely.

 

Are the Jaguars team enough to take advantage of them?  Unknown.

 

Every team in the division has issues that represent opportunity to this team.  Granted, the Jaguars also have their issues, but a few lucky breaks and some consistency and it's conceivable that this team is in the mix late in the year.  I don't think you're going to see the Colts or any team run away with the division. 

Too bad Henne has never been able to show that consistency or ability to limit his mistakes for a full season.

 

This team would need a defense to approach the level of the 2000 Ravens for this team to make the playoffs with Henne as QB.

Chad Henne has never finished higher than 79 rating, average 75, 62 Interceptions to only 55 TDs isnt a ratio you want your starting QB to have after so many years in the NFL. Not to mention 16 fumbles.   Last season alone he had 14 ints to 13 tds, and two fumbles.

Quote:Too bad Henne has never been able to show that consistency or ability to limit his mistakes for a full season.

 

This team would need a defense to approach the level of the 2000 Ravens for this team to make the playoffs with Henne as QB.

 

I think Henne is going to play better than anyone really expects him to this year.  That's not saying he's going to become an elite QB, but I think he's going to be a more efficient, effective starter than we've seen previously.  I still expect him to make mistakes, but I tend to think that with the weapons we've added on the field, it can only help his cause. 

 

Now, I'm also expecting Bortles to supplant him at some point.  I don't anticipate having Henne as the starter for the entire season, which also plays into the chances of this team making the post season. 

 

We don't need a defense on par with the 2000 Ravens.  The 2007 Jaguar defense will do just fine.  That was a top 10 defense that kept the team in close games and the offense did just enough to win.  I'm not predicting 12 wins, but 8 or 9 wins could take this division if things go our way. 

Quote:Outside of a miracle, Chad Henne is not leading this team to the playoffs.

 

I don't think Bortles would be either. 

 

They aren't quite that good yet. Theres still some missing pieces to add. 

Quote:Too bad Henne has never been able to show that consistency or ability to limit his mistakes for a full season.

 

This team would need a defense to approach the level of the 2000 Ravens for this team to make the playoffs with Henne as QB.

 

IMO, Henne's problem more than the mistakes is that when he's in there the defense can cheat and only really has to defend (focus on) a small part of the field because he's such a dink and dunker. 

Quote:I don't think Bortles would be either. 

 

They aren't quite that good yet. Theres still some missing pieces to add. 

 

The odds are certainly better with Bortles.