Arm strength is like Cab Fare when you're at the bar.
You need just enough to get you home. If you don't have enough, you're in trouble. If you have too much, you're liable to do things that might get you in trouble.
Quote:Skip still supporting manziel over anyone else. He gets too wrapped up in excitement a QB generates.
I would say off field excitement a QB generates.
Aaron Rodgers, Brady, Manning, et al provide plenty of on field excitement, and supporting any of them would be justified on some football level.
Gushing over Tebow and Manziel is more about style over substance.
Quote:Arm strength is like Cab Fare when you're at the bar.
You need just enough to get you home. If you don't have enough, you're in trouble. If you have too much, you're liable to do things that might get you in trouble.
You've used this before.....but it is correct.
I reuse it because it is correct.
Quote:Had we been able to get one of those two other QBs in addition to Bortles, not only would the position be set for years, but future trade possibilities would be numerous, I think.
Yeah, I think that would have been a great opportunity, but that may present itself again next year. In the meantime, we'll have Henne as a solid backup.
Sorry, but the topic title made me laugh at the redundancy.
Department of Redundancy Department.
Quote:There was a lot of talk before and around draft time the Manziel had the strongest arm in the draft or at least the strongest arm of the top prospects. Personally, I have never seen him use that strength in game situations, so I'm a bit skeptical myself.
Of the rookie QBs I've watched this preseason, Bortles is the one who seems to be most willing to go down the field and not just dink and dunk it. He's shown that he's able to throw outside of the pocket on the move, he can throw the deeper sideline passes with decent accuracy, and he's not afraid to throw into small windows. It's been more than a decade since we've had a QB who has the play making ability he does.
In listening to the analysis from Jaworski, Smith, and Bayless, I think they were all very fair with their analysis. Bayless can't quite set his man crush for Manziel aside, but he's dealt with that in the past with Tebow as well. He still almost begrudgingly had to put Bortles at the top of his list, but made sure to qualify it stating that he wasn't going against the 1s most of the time he was out there. What he didn't bother mentioning was that when he did go against the first team defense at Detroit, he's shown he's capable of moving the offense. There's still plenty of growth to be had. As Jaworski pointed out, the preseason is a whole different game from the regular season where the intensity level amps up significantly.
Decent accuracy??
I thought Bortles deep throws were laser guided! :-)
Quote:Decent accuracy??
I thought Bortles deep throws were laser guided! :-)
Not all of his passes have been laser guided. He's been blessed with a few mulligans along the way.
Quote:I reuse it because it is correct.
In your face!!!!!!!!
Recall that having a good backup QB (Rob Johnson), who we traded to Buffalo, led to our ability to draft Freddy Taylor.
Quote:I reuse it because it is correct.
I hadn't seen it before.
I'm glad you reused it.
It's a pretty good analogy.
Quote:Not all of his passes have been laser guided. He's been blessed with a few mulligans along the way.
I agree with you about this, but what stuck out to me is 2 sure ints were dropped in one drive, only special QBs have crap like that go their way
Quote:I agree with you about this, but what stuck out to me is 2 sure ints were dropped in one drive, only special QBs have crap like that go their way
Or lucky ones.
Quote:..... another illustration that this front office is smarter than I am. Thank God I can say this once again.
^This
Quote:There was a lot of talk before and around draft time the Manziel had the strongest arm in the draft or at least the strongest arm of the top prospects. Personally, I have never seen him use that strength in game situations, so I'm a bit skeptical myself.
Manziel has a strong enough arm, though not exceptional. Bortles arm strength looks a lot better than what I saw in college. It may have been an easy fix that made the difference. He threw that pass to Lee 40+ yards through the air with good velocity, Manziel would have needed more arc on such a pass.
Quote:The dude thrives on being the outcast with the against the grain opinion.
woah that sounds like our very own poster here.
Quote:I agree with you about this, but what stuck out to me is 2 sure ints were dropped in one drive, only special QBs have crap like that go their way
And time and time again he bounced back from a bad throw/decision
Quote:woah that sounds like our very own poster here.
Some people like trolling
It does look like this QB class could end up being pretty darn good after all. Not just the first rounders are impressing.