Quote:Right now yeah. But re-builds are typically billed as 3 year projects. By the third year, there should marked improvement. Shad's content now, but in a year or two there will need to be results in the w/L column. What im saying is, should improvement stall a bit or take longer than was initially thought, this could buy them a bit more time. Which again, isn't a bad idea for them necessarily.
And everything appears to be right on track.
Quote:I don't think you're going to see any real dissension in the locker room. It's a young locker room and the majority of these players understand the process. And I think that when Bortles is ready to go, he is going to assume the starting role, so any frustrations that may develop will be addressed, and probably sooner than most expect. Just not to start the season.
I agree that we won't be seeing it. At most what we'll see is players in post game interviews clearly irritated to have to talk about Henne and why the team lost another game.
I think we'll see Bortles starting before the season is halfway over. They've even said they're going to keep giving him first team reps during the season, it all points to the plan regarding Henne for him to simply be the guy in the game until Fisch and Co think that Bortles is as ready to play as possible.
Quote:I agree that we won't be seeing it. At most what we'll see is players in post game interviews clearly irritated to have to talk about Henne and why the team lost another game.
I think we'll see Bortles starting before the season is halfway over. They've even said they're going to keep giving him first team reps during the season, it all points to the plan regarding Henne for him to simply be the guy in the game until Fisch and Co think that Bortles is as ready to play as possible.
The problem with the Jaguars that I still haven't seen remedied, I know it's just preseason, is the fact that we can't seem to consistently score TD's but instead settle for field goals.
If that's the case, we'll be losing quite a bit to start the season. At which point I don't see why the coaching staff doesn't begin to train BB5 with live bullets. It really does just seem like a matter of time. The best thing for this young team is to start with the veteran at the beginning of the season and slowly get Bortles ready by mid season, if not sooner.
Bortles' footwork is still an area he needs work on. He will get better. Right now Henne needs to start but Bortles will not sit the bench all year. Trust in the plan, the plan may change, but we have what appears to be a great up and coming GM. Pair that with a good coach and an owner who will throw $$ to make things happen and we have ourselves a competitive football team sooner rather than later
Gabbert would be #53 on the QB Depth Chart if he were still here.
Quote:Gabbert would be #53 on the QB Depth Chart if he were still here.
If there's a waterboy on the roster, #54.
Quote:how many rookies in recent years have sat initially and gone on to have good careers?
Strictly QB or all positions?
Rodgers?
Palmer
Rivers
Eli Manning
Alex Smith
Cutler
I'll have to look up some more...
Quote:Strictly QB or all positions?
Rodgers?
Palmer
Rivers
Eli Manning
Alex Smith
Cutler
I'll have to look up some more...
Your most recent example was drafted in 2006.
Quote:Strictly QB or all positions?
Rodgers?
Palmer
Rivers
Eli Manning
Alex Smith
Cutler
I'll have to look up some more...
Also, Rodgers backed up Favre, Rivers backed up Brees, Manning backed up Warner, Cutler backed up Plummer. Even Kitna was better than Henne. Those were all better options for those teams than starting a rookie. Henne is worse than all those guys. And Smith started early in the season, week 2 at the latest.
The biggest issue for me is that I know Henne really isn't that competent. He may know the offense, but executing is a different monster that he has never conquered. Bortles is literally the best option as far as winning is concerned... Players won't say it publicly, but give it time. The frustration will show.
I really don't mind Henne starting because the "hope" that I have for the future is at 100%. I don't want anything to lower that feeling.
That said, I'd have to say that I believe the chance we have winning @ Philly with Henne is ~ 10% whereas I'd put that percentage up to 20% with Bortles.
Quote:No, trading Gabbert showed they had seen all they needed to from Gabbert. I'm not buying "faith in Chad". He lost a qb competition to Blaine last offseason. They didnt have faith then, so I'm not buying it now. Even several weeks into the season, it was "blaine's our starter barring injury". AKA, they already knew what Chad was.
You don't draft a QB at #3 overall (especially when you have a lot of issuses at other key positions on the team) unless you #1 really need a franchise QB that can play this year #2 have total confidence in the QB that you are drafting is NFL ready to play this season.
Trust me Blake Bortles will play this year well before week 8, because we do all know what to expect of Chad Henne... That doesnt mean he cant all suprise us, which I would be fine with but I doubt it.
I think Blake might play as early as week 3.
Quote:Your most recent example was drafted in 2006.
Yet all are still starting which is kinda the point...
Quote:The biggest issue for me is that I know Henne really isn't that competent. He may know the offense, but executing is a different monster that he has never conquered. Bortles is literally the best option as far as winning is concerned... Players won't say it publicly, but give it time. The frustration will show.
He has some physical limitations and he needs to be more accurate but he knows the offense and based on interviews with the players and coaches is making the right reads and right calls at the line. That is something we haven't seen in awhile. Moreover, Gus has said that the defensive fronts and schemes Henne has seen are more complex than Bortles has experienced so far. On this, I'll defer to the coach. The rook will play when he's ready. In the meantime, Henne is our best option and can play efficiently when given some help.
Henne is starting because we're not making the playoffs this year no matter what.
That is what starting Henne tells me.
Bortles will take over once it is set in stone that we're not making the playoffs.
And come 2015 he'll be the clear cut starter and Henne will finish his contract as the vet backup.
At that point the Oline, WR corp, and RBs will all be 2nd year players or better.
The defense will be in year 3 of a overhaul and should be good or better.
It's the perfect situation for Bortles.
I'd rather watch Bortles from week one. But I totally get the FO's direction, even if I don't exactly like it.
They get paid the big bucks to make these decisions so I don't have to.