Quote:That's gold right there. You know what they say about the word assume: Only JFC makes the correct one.
Quote:Trust me. You haven't a clue. That's written all over this forum as well. But, it's okay. You're more than welcome to stereotype as you see fit. It's okay if you're on the left to do just that. Otherwise, it's deemed something I believe the term libs like you love to lob out there rhymes with facist. It's like an instinctual reaction, even if you're completely wrong.
Don't assume you have even a remote clue what I'm thinking. Unless I say it, you don't have any idea.
Quote:Isn't that the way lefties operate? Jumping to conclusions is just the nature of things where they're concerned.
Quote:I find it very interesting that you complain about "lefties" stereotyping, while simultaneously doing the exact same thing. You do so more than anyone else I've seen on this board, as a matter of fact.
Quote:Its clear and so obvious that you have been brainwashed and or manipulated into a way of thinking about Democrats.
Have you even heard of Progressive, Conservative, or Independent Democrats?
Your mind has been manipulated to such a pathetic way of thinking that you only see one type of Democrat and that is Liberal which is INCORRECT.
What's even more sad and pathetic is that the few issues discussed on here ie defending Israel, and gun rights is something we actually agree on FBT.
Quote:It doesn't require brainwashing to know how a democrat thinks. You simply erase logic and common sense from the equation, and you can pretty much figure out the position modern libs will take on just about any issue.So, don't make assumptions about you while you do the same to a very large group of Americans?
Progressive is nothing more than the new term for liberal. It's the new sanitized term because the term liberal has been completely tainted.
Yes, I've heard of "conservative" and "independent" democrats.
I'm not the one who has predetermined what MY opinion on a particular subject is. That's all on you. Spin it however you must to feel like you have the high ground. It won't fly.
Quote:So, don't make assumptions about you while you do the same to a very large group of Americans?I didn't open the door.
Quote:I didn't open the door.
Quote:It doesn't require brainwashing to know how a democrat thinks. You simply erase logic and common sense from the equation, and you can pretty much figure out the position modern libs will take on just about any issue.
Progressive is nothing more than the new term for liberal. It's the new sanitized term because the term liberal has been completely tainted.
Yes, I've heard of "conservative" and "independent" democrats.
I'm not the one who has predetermined what MY opinion on a particular subject is. That's all on you. Spin it however you must to feel like you have the high ground. It won't fly.
Quote:Ah, yes, the two wrongs make a right (especially when the second one is literally millions of times bigger) argument. A genuine sign of logic and common sense.
You're a hypocrite, FBT.
Quote:It dosent require brainwashing to know how a Democrat work. Really FBT?So you are closer to a centrist. Way to be a fence sitter /s
If anyone wants to take a look at real live hypocrisy they can look no further than your post above.
Let me explain to you a little bit about some of my views, if you even care to pay attention at this point.
I am a Democrat who believes in small government, but also believes in regulation of the free market.
I am pro gun rights.
I am for Gay marriage and equal rights, but firmly believe marriage is defined in the bible between man and woman.
I support Israel as a right to defend itself as a state, and believe the U.S. should continue to be a key ally.
I believe EVERYONE, rich, middle class, poor should have access to quality, affordable preventable health care.
I support tax cuts for Americans making at or below poverty level income.
I believe Government should have a reduced role in welfare, but still maintain subsides for those who need it in emergencies circumstances.
Reinvest in Social Security.
I support tax breaks for small businesses.
You can "label" me however you choose, at this point I will say this AGAIN, I know your line of thinking, and sadly there are MILLIONS others, both Democratic and Republican who share the same behaviors and tendencies you posses which I feel hold this country back sometimes from progress.
When I was younger, I must admit I held the same IGNORANT PREJUDICE against Republicans who I thought we all racists, rich, etc, come to find out the most amazing person who is a Republican is my wife. We have our disagreements, but what got me more embracive to the Republican Party was when she started to explain their ideology basically separating fact from fiction, and ironically, most of our viewpoints line up the same, but she and others HATE the radicals who just love to stereotype the left with one broad stroke like you and so many other do.
I sincerely pray that your sentiments towards people who have a different political affiliation from you are just some off the cuff feelings and dont mask the person who you truly are FBT.
Quote:So you are closer to a centrist. Way to be a fence sitter /s
Quote:It dosent require brainwashing to know how a Democrat work. Really FBT?
If anyone wants to take a look at real live hypocrisy they can look no further than your post above.
Let me explain to you a little bit about some of my views, if you even care to pay attention at this point.
I am a Democrat who believes in small government, but also believes in regulation of the free market.
Thank your republican wife for those views. Republicans don't believe in completely unregulated markets. They just don't want over-regulation and government intrusion beyond what is necessary.
I am pro gun rights.
I know plenty of pro gun rights democrats. I go shooting with one every other week. Gun control is a more radical leftist mantra.
I am for Gay marriage and equal rights, but firmly believe marriage is defined in the bible between man and woman.
If you firmly believe marriage is defined in the Bible between a man and a woman, but you're pro gay marriage, you're a contradiction. Equal rights are a separate issue. In both cases, I don't care one way or the other. It shouldn't be a political issue to begin with. What someone does in the privacy of their own home means nothing to me.
I support Israel as a right to defend itself as a state, and believe the U.S. should continue to be a key ally.
Your party does not. In fact, they would love nothing more than to cut Israel off completely and let them sink or swim on their own.
I believe EVERYONE, rich, middle class, poor should have access to quality, affordable preventable health care.
And what your party has given this country is healthcare that is low quality, expensive, and rationed. You believe healthcare should be provided by the government? I believe the government doesn't need to be in the healthcare business except in extreme cases as a safety net. Everyone in this country already had access to healthcare regardless of whether they had insurance or not. The system was never as broken as your party tried to portray it, and what they've done to "fix" it has only made it worse.
I support tax cuts for Americans making at or below poverty level income.
You do realize that Americans making at or below poverty level don't pay income taxes, right? Ever heard of the Earned Income Tax Credit?
I believe Government should have a reduced role in welfare, but still maintain subsides for those who need it in emergencies circumstances.
If government has a reduced role in welfare, it would devastate the base of the democrat party. Perpetuating and expanding government dependency is one of the main pillars of the party platform whether you agree or not. There's a reason they're trying to expand entitlement programs the way they are. They see that as expanding their political influence.
Reinvest in Social Security.
I support tax breaks for small businesses.
You can "label" me however you choose, at this point I will say this AGAIN, I know your line of thinking, and sadly there are MILLIONS others, both Democratic and Republican who share the same behaviors and tendencies you posses which I feel hold this country back sometimes from progress.
You really have no idea what my line of thinking is. You keep saying this, but based on what you've put out there already, you haven't a clue. I commend you for having an open mind on certain issues that your party takes an extreme stance on.
When I was younger, I must admit I held the same IGNORANT PREJUDICE against Republicans who I thought we all racists, rich, etc, come to find out the most amazing person who is a Republican is my wife. We have our disagreements, but what got me more embracive to the Republican Party was when she started to explain their ideology basically separating fact from fiction, and ironically, most of our viewpoints line up the same, but she and others HATE the radicals who just love to stereotype the left with one broad stroke like you and so many other do.
I'm sure your wife and I would get along just fine politically. You call me a radical, but once again, you know nothing about my overall political philosophy. You tell me I stereotyped you, but for some reason, you fail to recognize you're doing the exact same thing here, and in other threads where we don't necessarily agree. You accuse me of being a hypocrite, but if that's the case, so are you based on your own predisposed notions.
I sincerely pray that your sentiments towards people who have a different political affiliation from you are just some off the cuff feelings and dont mask the person who you truly are FBT.
I have friends and family who are democrats, and I don't hold it against them.
Quote:Thank your republican wife for those views. Republicans don't believe in completely unregulated markets. They just don't want over-regulation and government intrusion beyond what is necessary.
What constitute in your mind as over regulation? What im looking for is markets to police themselves with just necessary regulation from the state and federal government.
I am pro gun rights.
I know plenty of pro gun rights democrats. I go shooting with one every other week. Gun control is a more radical leftist mantra.
I agree.
I am for Gay marriage and equal rights, but firmly believe marriage is defined in the bible between man and woman.
If you firmly believe marriage is defined in the Bible between a man and a woman, but you're pro gay marriage, you're a contradiction. Equal rights are a separate issue. In both cases, I don't care one way or the other. It shouldn't be a political issue to begin with. What someone does in the privacy of their own home means nothing to me.
How is it a contridaction? Equal rights ties right into Gay marriage because if effects spouses marriage, tax, Social Security, benefits in certain states where GM is legal but certain benefits have yet to pass through legislation in those states.
I support Israel as a right to defend itself as a state, and believe the U.S. should continue to be a key ally.
Your party does not. In fact, they would love nothing more than to cut Israel off completely and let them sink or swim on their own.
Welcome to the world of different Democratic viewpoints.
I believe EVERYONE, rich, middle class, poor should have access to quality, affordable preventable health care.
And what your party has given this country is healthcare that is low quality, expensive, and rationed. You believe healthcare should be provided by the government? I believe the government doesn't need to be in the healthcare business except in extreme cases as a safety net. Everyone in this country already had access to healthcare regardless of whether they had insurance or not. The system was never as broken as your party tried to portray it, and what they've done to "fix" it has only made it worse.
To avoid the excessive red tape, I believe the health care should be provided by the state, and if those states are unable to provide, let the Government and Individual/private comapnies provide it. It should be funded on a limited level to where both the State/Federal should work with Individual providers to help continue to provide care to both the insured, underinsured, and non-insured. Everyone in this country (before ACA) who was working did not have access to health care (preventative, and current) either for financial reasons or were denied coverage because of preexisting conditions. They were only treated in the case where injury is present or death is immenient. Do you really call that full access to health care?
Last time I checked, I don’t see thousands of people lined up at hospitals dying because they are rationed as to who will get care and who wouldn’t, this is part of the fear tatic that is always being drummed up. Do you think we would really turn into a third world country (where there is actual proof of people dying due to rationalization of health care)?
I support tax cuts for Americans making at or below poverty level income.
You do realize that Americans making at or below poverty level don't pay income taxes, right? Ever heard of the Earned Income Tax Credit?
And do you realize the majority of the poor people either are not educated on that tax credit, or don’t FULLY receive their full taxes back?
I believe Government should have a reduced role in welfare, but still maintain subsides for those who need it in emergencies circumstances.
If government has a reduced role in welfare, it would devastate the base of the democrat party. Perpetuating and expanding government dependency is one of the main pillars of the party platform whether you agree or not. There's a reason they're trying to expand entitlement programs the way they are. They see that as expanding their political influence.
Here you go again with the doomsday scenario.
Well when you have people who refuse to raise the minimum wage, and yet welfare paid more than 10.00 an hour in a lot of states, what do you think will happen?
Reinvest in Social Security.
I support tax breaks for small businesses.
You can "label" me however you choose, at this point I will say this AGAIN, I know your line of thinking, and sadly there are MILLIONS others, both Democratic and Republican who share the same behaviors and tendencies you posses which I feel hold this country back sometimes from progress.
You really have no idea what my line of thinking is. You keep saying this, but based on what you've put out there already, you haven't a clue. I commend you for having an open mind on certain issues that your party takes an extreme stance on.
So let me guess, all the responses you have given thus far are lies?
When I was younger, I must admit I held the same IGNORANT PREJUDICE against Republicans who I thought we all racists, rich, etc, come to find out the most amazing person who is a Republican is my wife. We have our disagreements, but what got me more embracive to the Republican Party was when she started to explain their ideology basically separating fact from fiction, and ironically, most of our viewpoints line up the same, but she and others HATE the radicals who just love to stereotype the left with one broad stroke like you and so many other do.
I'm sure your wife and I would get along just fine politically. You call me a radical, but once again, you know nothing about my overall political philosophy. You tell me I stereotyped you, but for some reason, you fail to recognize you're doing the exact same thing here, and in other threads where we don't necessarily agree. You accuse me of being a hypocrite, but if that's the case, so are you based on your own predisposed notions.
How can I sterotype you when you keep claiming I know nothing about you? Remember, when you type a response, that opionion reflects your beliefs unless you are lying.
I sincerely pray that your sentiments towards people who have a different political affiliation from you are just some off the cuff feelings and dont mask the person who you truly are FBT.
I have friends and family who are democrats, and I don't hold it against them.
Nobody is in complete agreement with their party platform unless they are the person writing it. I don't agree with everything the republicans do, although I am an unashamed conservative politically. You've attempted to stereotype me in this thread by implying that you knew what my thinking was about the content that was removed in another thread related to a black guy being taken into custody for doing nothing. Again, you have no idea what I actually thought. You just made an assumption based on your own bias.
I'm not denying I've stereotyped you as the typical lib democrat, and perhaps that struck a nerve with you so you decided to return the favor. That's all fine and good. You don't know me. I don't know you. But, I do know that what you assumed about my thoughts on that subject couldn't be further from the truth. You've implied here and in the Ferguson thread that I'm a racist or a bigot based on your comments. I find that completely offensive, but I could make the same accusations about you since you clearly stereotyped me based on nothing more than your assumptions.
FYI, 0bama calls himself a progressive. So does Hillary. They're both liberals by any standard. The word liberal has become a dirty word for the left, so they've assumed the progressive tag as a way of distancing themselves from the true label. If your viewpoints are as you claim they are above, you're not a progressive. You're a moderate. Big difference.
Nothing you wrote struck a nerve with me. For whatever silly reason, now you are so paranoid that you think I was calling you a racist or bigot. Some of your responses whether in this thread or the other thread(s) I raised an eyebrow to and called you out on it either to understand your contex or need further clarification.
As far as the party affiliation, I actually align myself more with moderate or independent Democratic. I used the progressive term on purpose to take a shot at you because my whole point was again, to explain there are many different types of facets within the Democratic party.