I just find it interesting that Guy is making plays back there as a strong safety. Are his coverage skills improving that much or does he have less responsibilities than Earl Thomas?
Guy is the free safety...
Yes it differs from Seattle's.
Aside from MightyRx's observation that Guy is the FS, the fact is, we have no equivalent to Earl Thomas in our secondary.
At this point, Cyprien is not the equal of Chancellor.
Quote:Yes it differs from Seattle's.
Aside from MightyRx's observation that Guy is the FS, the fact is, we have no equivalent to Earl Thomas in our secondary.
At this point, Cyprien is not the equal of Chancellor.
We have no ball hawk at all in our secondary at present.
Quote:We have no ball hawk at all in our secondary at present.
Right...and Seattle has at least two.
Now I think some players may be able to develop into a ball hawk, especially if the D-Line improves and plays like they did against Tampa.
Quote:I just find it interesting that Guy is making plays back there as a strong safety. Are his coverage skills improving that much or does he have less responsibilities than Earl Thomas?
I think the thing to remember is that the coaches can only run what the players are capable of. Cyprien is a second year player and will be a lot more comfortbale this year. Guy looks a lot better too. Now, Guy is never going to be Earl Thomas, but Cyprien definitely has the potential talent that Kam does.
So realistically I am sure they want to use the safeties the same way, or maybe even in more ways. It all depends on the talent. The defense is clearly on the up and up.
I could see Cyp and Guy each getting maybe 4 INTs a piece this year.
Quote:Right...and Seattle has at least two.
Now I think some players may be able to develop into a ball hawk, especially if the D-Line improves and plays like they did against Tampa.
I think that's the key point- "ball hawks" are basically just the guys that catch the fly balls when the QBs chuck and duck.
It's the defensive line. Get a great defensive line and, seemingly out of nowhere, all these "ball hawks" will show up in the secondary. Like magic!
Quote:I think that's the key point- "ball hawks" are basically just the guys that catch the fly balls when the QBs chuck and duck. It's the defensive line. Get a great defensive line and, seemingly out of nowhere, all these "ball hawks" will show up in the secondary. Like magic!
Agreed. It all starts up front. If we can force mistakes, those ball hawks magically appear.
Example - Guy's interception against Tampa. That wouldn't have happened if Telvin didn't get the hit on the QB. If your front can pressure that's when errant throws happen and that's when the ball hawks show up. If our starting Dline looks as good as advertised then we should see more of those kinds of throws.
Quote:Agreed. It all starts up front. If we can force mistakes, those ball hawks magically appear.
Like Guy he looked all Pro Friday night!
Seahawks were built from the outside in. Prior to this last season the only reliable pass rush option was Chris Clemons. Irvin got 8 sacks but was sporadic.
2013 is what happens when you put that secondary with an elite pass rush through Clemmons, Bennett and Avril.
Thomas' speed in conjuction with Sherman's coverage allowed Chancellor to be more of a rover. When Guy was still a Hawk, he was seen as more of a Kam style SS than a FS.
If our Dline keeps getting better and gets pressure I think we will see a Sid amount of picks in our future.
Quote:Seahawks were built from the outside in. Prior to this last season the only reliable pass rush option was Chris Clemons. Irvin got 8 sacks but was sporadic.
2013 is what happens when you put that secondary with an elite pass rush through Clemmons, Bennett and Avril.
Thomas' speed in conjuction with Sherman's coverage allowed Chancellor to be more of a rover. When Guy was still a Hawk, he was seen as more of a Kam style SS than a FS.
This is the same way Caldwell has built the D