I keep seeing it pop up on the news feeds I guess a couple of American doctors got it over in Africa and they're coming stateside. I don't know much about Ebola or what it does other than what I've read in the last couple of days, apparently there's no cure and it has a 90% kill rate? Sounds like something I should no more about?
Anyone else keeping one eye on this? Any chance of it being an issue here? I know they said a couple of the African nations had to close their borders to try and keep it from spreading. Anyways thoughts........
Scary stuff.
I wouldn't want anyone from over there that is affected being let into our country...Seems stupid to chance that.
Quote:Scary stuff.
I wouldn't want anyone from over there that is affected being let into our country...Seems stupid to chance that.
Right from what I've read this stuff is so contagious transporting patients here is a risk. Apparently it's never been done before? transporting someone in with the virus already.
There is a book called The Hot Zone. It's a very good account of the history of the virus, but it errs in one regard. It describes one effect of the virus as a victim's organs "liquifying", but that doesn't happen. There are two effects - it shuts down the body's immune system, and prevents blood clotting. Patients bleed.
The reason it spreads so much in Africa is their inability to isolate victims, and also unsafe burial practices. You only get the virus from contact with the bodily fluids of a victim while the virus is active, or after they die. It is not airborne, and it is not contagious during the incubation period, which is 21 days, IIRC.
90% of victims die, but it is survivable if detected and treated early.
Quote:There is a book called The Hot Zone. It's a very good account of the history of the virus, but it errs in one regard. It describes one effect of the virus as a victim's organs "liquifying", but that doesn't happen. There are two effects - it shuts down the body's immune system, and prevents blood clotting. Patients bleed.
The reason it spreads so much in Africa is their inability to isolate victims, and also unsafe burial practices. You only get the virus from contact with the blood of a victim while the virus is active, or after they die. It is not airborne, and it is not contagious during the incubation period, which is 21 days, IIRC.
90% of victims die, but it is survivable if detected and treated early.
So it's a blood to blood infection only? I thought it was airborne that's what worried me about it.
Quote:Right from what I've read this stuff is so contagious transporting patients here is a risk. Apparently it's never been done before? transporting someone in with the virus already.
I guess the ultimate ulterior motive is someone is hoping it spreads here. Why on earth would they chance this??
Quote:Right from what I've read this stuff is so contagious transporting patients here is a risk. Apparently it's never been done before? transporting someone in with the virus already.
It's not the risk the Chicken Littles are squawking about. This is the first time a patient with Ebola has been transported here.
The bigger concern is from anyone traveling to an affected region, contracting the virus and returning while it is incubating.
Quote:It's not the risk the Chicken Littles are squawking about. This is the first time a patient with Ebola has been transported here.
The bigger concern is from anyone traveling to an affected region, contracting the virus and returning while it is incubating.
So if someone is incubating are they contagious and is it spread through contact of blood only?
Quote:It's not the risk the Chicken Littles are squawking about. This is the first time a patient with Ebola has been transported here.
The bigger concern is from anyone traveling to an affected region, contracting the virus and returning while it is incubating.
LOL @ its not the risk....
Thank you, Kreskin.
Seems to me time will be the judge of if this wasn't a risky move or not.
Quote:I guess the ultimate ulterior motive is someone is hoping it spreads here. Why on earth would they chance this??
Seriously, TMD, get a grip. They are transporting 2 patients to perhaps the best facility in the country for dealing with this virus. With the proximity of Emory University Hospital to the CDC, this is a unique opportunity to study this it.
Yes, it's a conspiracy - a conspiracy to save lives.
Quote:So if someone is incubating are they contagious and is it spread through contact of blood only?
No, if they are incubating they are not contagious. One must come in contact with the bodily fluids from a victim with symptoms.
Quote:Seriously, TMD, get a grip. They are transporting 2 patients to perhaps the best facility in the country for dealing with this virus. With the proximity of Emory University Hospital to the CDC, this is a unique opportunity to study this it.
Yes, it's a conspiracy - a conspiracy to save lives.
Better hope the so called "experts" know what they are doing and that this don't spread here, now.
Quote:Better hope the so called "experts" know what they are doing and that this don't spread here, now.
By all means, get worked up with scant knowledge of the facts. It's what you do, and you do it well.
Quote:By all means, get worked up with scant knowledge of the facts. It's what you do, and you do it well.
By all means ignore a 90% kill rate with no cure....
Quote:No, if they are incubating they are not contagious. One must come in contact with the blood from a victim with symptoms.
well if it's transmitted by blood that's not nearly as dangerous as they've made it sound. I was under the impression saliva could let this thing lose.
Quote:well if it's transmitted by blood that's not nearly as dangerous as they've made it sound. I was under the impression saliva could let this thing lose.
I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss anything. They're always underselling any potential risk factors so they don't create panic. Time will tell how risky this was if ebola suddenly starts to spread in this country in the ensuing months/ years.
No worries here. It spreads through the contact with affected fluids only.
Anyone remember the movie "outbreak"?
It was about ebola. Good movie.
Quote:No worries here. It spreads through the contact with affected fluids only.
Anyone remember the movie "outbreak"?
It was about ebola. Good movie.
So if someone has the virus and coughs or sneezes on someone else do they end up with the virus?
Quote:So if someone has the virus and coughs or sneezes on someone else do they end up with the virus?
According to the World Health Organization website it's any bodily fluid, blood, sweat, saliva, urine so on and so fourth. Maybe if they cough in your mouth and you swallow it I guess you can contract it.
Quote:By all means ignore a 90% kill rate with no cure....
Quote:I guess the ultimate ulterior motive is someone is hoping it spreads here. Why on earth would they chance this??
You answered your own question. They chance it because they can possibly save two lives directly, and perhaps thousands more as a result of of their research on two live subjects. If only your concern for these two lives matched that you displayed for a rabbit.
Knowledge is power, which explains your impotence when discussing this subject.