The first comment of the week for me was this - I am going to try to forget what I saw from BB today.. then I read through the thread and it sounds even worse. They're not pulling him are they?
Ducks...yeah, there were definitely a number of those, but it was worse than just that.. even still, please tell me he's still the guy.
Quote:First let me say that I was not at practices and that I'm only basing my observations off the highlights posted on Jaguars.Com. It seems like every pass comes out super wobbly. Anyone else notice this? I would especially like to hear from the people that have made it to the practices.
Indeed he did throw a few ducks today, but that's not at all his norm.
EDIT: I just noticed this is a thread from back in July about him throwing ducks with poor footwork. I'd say he's improved immensely since, but like I just said, there were clearly a few wobbly ducks in this game. I haven't noticed this at all until today though. Normally his passes are nice and crisp, and he had quite a few of those as well today. He may have had moments of regression. I'm sure that happens to everyone.
Yes he does. it wouldn't matter if he was consistently challenging the deep third of the football field with accuracy, but right now he's not. To make matters worse, opposing cornerbacks are so unconcerned with his accuracy that they are hopping underneath routes. 5 picks in the last two games and all of them were within 15 yards of the LOS.
His motion is a little quirky. he has a lot more leftwhich baseball windup than you would think and right now the ball is coming out of his hand funny. Its been a problem since training camp, but it really showed up the last three games. one of those he had three hundred plus passing yards because screens count. even in that game when he was throwing the ball down the field the ball sometimes would nose dive or loft.
I WANT Bortles to be the guy as much as anyone here. It would make me the happiest person in the world. I think he has shown that he has traits that you look for in THE GUY. That being said, through five starts we have four in which the defense has stood on its head and held the opposition under 20 points and we haven't come close to cracking twenty without the aid of turnovers. He's eliminated hennes three and outs and he's a good athlete but you can't fully be THE GUY until you are THE GUY and when you are talking about a total reconstruction of everything that makes him a QB then its cause for at least some concern.
On a side note... as far as decision making. he had another pick six on a read option pass and the defender just didn't turn his head and he should have slid on the fumble. when you ask a guy to throw with anticipation then the pick to shorts makes some sense because he was expecting the receiver to win the route, but the one late to the TE was HORRENDOUS.
Keep chuckin ducks, it's better than hand off, hand off, incomplete pass, punt.
What I'm worried about is that he isn't progressing. By all accounts he looked like he was progressing at the beginning of the year and through the first two games he started. The ball was accurate and crisp. Sure he had some questionable decisions but at least he was making some athletic plays and slinging the ball well. Now the last couple games it looks to be completely the opposite.
I'm starting to think that the pressure is getting to him. He looks to be trying to make a play every snap. Which don't get me wrong, is not a bad thing unless you are making ill advised decisions. And he is.
So how do the coaches fix this? Do you bench the guy until after the bye? Do you simplify the play book more? Do you rely on the running game? Maybe play a more up tempo spread style offense? I really wish I had the solution because I want Blake to succeed so bad, this team should not have to worry about the qb position anymore.
Quote:What I'm worried about is that he isn't progressing. By all accounts he looked like he was progressing at the beginning of the year and through the first two games he started. The ball was accurate and crisp. Sure he had some questionable decisions but at least he was making some athletic plays and slinging the ball well. Now the last couple games it looks to be completely the opposite.
I'm starting to think that the pressure is getting to him. He looks to be trying to make a play every snap. Which don't get me wrong, is not a bad thing unless you are making ill advised decisions. And he is.
So how do the coaches fix this? Do you bench the guy until after the bye? Do you simplify the play book more? Do you rely on the running game? Maybe play a more up tempo spread style offense? I really wish I had the solution because I want Blake to succeed so bad, this team should not have to worry about the qb position anymore.
Blake needs to RELAX out there and take what the defense gives him. He has a running game right now to help him out, he doesn't have to try and do it all.
Continue to take the shots down field at times, but play smarter and don't try to force the ball into coverage.
And NO, you don't even think about benching him. Let him play through this rough patch.
The next several games won't be easy and it will probably get ugly at times, so watch at your own risk.
Remember, there are a lot of rookies on offense and they will look like rookies more often than not.
he needs to clean it up. his feet and throwing motion are really inconsistent, so the ball is also
There's a reason he was supposed to sit on bench
Quote:There's a reason he was supposed to sit on bench
Yes.
Why did they throw him in? I really would like to hear from the coaches on their reasons. I guess they know they have time to rebuild and have that luxury.
Shad is slick. He knows long time fans and ticket holders are getting tired of years of nothing but promises. But the attractions bring in new fans, including those from the opposing team.
It gets old waiting for " next year" . This year was " next year". Any signs of playoff hopes? When the D shows up the Offense flounders. Then visa versa. Frustrating. Next year? Any bets we don't sniff the playoffs? Hope I'm wrong, but I wouldn't put bets on it.
Guess its 2017 then.
Jobes patience would be tested. The quest for new, young fans therefore is the priority.
Quote:There's a reason he was supposed to sit on bench
You really think he'd be better for sitting on his butt all season?
He was going to struggle like this if he sat or not. The game is too fast for him right now and sitting on the bench isn't going to slow it down for him. I would rather him throw these now and learn.
Would his footwork have been better if he sat all year? Maybe. However I'm not one that's convinced you just change the types of footwork issues he has in a season. Guys revert back to those bad habits when they've been doing them for years as the pressure comes on. If they thought he needed major footwork/mechanics changes to be successful I'm not sure he should have been drafted at 3. I'm not sure he's ever going to have great footwork, it's a habit thing. Maybe they can fix it, I'm no QB coach. I don't get a good feeling they can, that's my opinion.
I'm also a pro-bottles playing now guy (obviously) and don't have a problem with the issues were seeing.
Yes his footwork has been bad. But a lot of the things and mistakes he's making look to be the defense showing him things he hasn't seen. The game is still going fast for him and with time he'll learn these things. My opinion is it's better for him to have the tape to review now and through the offseason versus him having to learn all this in his 2nd year.
I guess at least they're not geese?
The defenses also arent scared of our receivers. None of them have consistent big play ability or speed to stretch the field. At this point, Marquis Lee has been non existent.
The teams have game planned to his strengths, and our offensive coaching staff hasn't changed a thing.
Quote:Yes.
Why did they throw him in? I really would like to hear from the coaches on their reasons. I guess they know they have time to rebuild and have that luxury.
Shad is slick. He knows long time fans and ticket holders are getting tired of years of nothing but promises. But the attractions bring in new fans, including those from the opposing team.
It gets old waiting for " next year" . This year was " next year". Any signs of playoff hopes? When the D shows up the Offense flounders. Then visa versa. Frustrating. Next year? Any bets we don't sniff the playoffs? Hope I'm wrong, but I wouldn't put bets on it.
Guess its 2017 then.
Jobes patience would be tested. The quest for new, young fans therefore is the priority.
Year 3 has always been the year from the minute they were hired and further stated when they insinuated that the QB wouldn't play this year. They put him in because Henne was catastrophic when they thought he would be adequate, and it was more than the franchise could bear after 2 weeks.
BB5 has the classic problem all rookies do, the game speed is beyond his ability to process it at times, and when that happens his mechanics flounder. The good thing is that he's made some really athletic plays at some of those times that show he's got the whole package if he can learn to use it all.
He also has the disadvantage of playing with other rooks who have the same problems and that, as management originally thought, could hinder his development this year.
The best part for us is that he's already good enough to overcome some of these issues at times, he just needs more playing time to put it all together.
they had to put Blake in that second half of the Colts game because nobody would have stayed to watch the game if they didn't
I don't see how sitting around taking scout team snaps would make him more ready for next season. this is the best thing for him right now. he needs to learn from actually playing, not sitting around.
Quote:Year 3 has always been the year from the minute they were hired and further stated when they insinuated that the QB wouldn't play this year. They put him in because Henne was catastrophic when they thought he would be adequate, and it was more than the franchise could bear after 2 weeks.
BB5 has the classic problem all rookies do, the game speed is beyond his ability to process it at times, and when that happens his mechanics flounder. The good thing is that he's made some really athletic plays at some of those times that show he's got the whole package if he can learn to use it all.
He also has the disadvantage of playing with other rooks who have the same problems and that, as management originally thought, could hinder his development this year.
The best part for us is that he's already good enough to overcome some of these issues at times, he just needs more playing time to put it all together.
So next year will be year 3. If they dont go at least go 8-8 after what looks like 2 horrible seasons, they get Khanaxed? Khanned?
A year and a half is far off. But I'm betting even with a lousy season, they stay. Even Jerry Jones has stuck by coaches. This season it looks to be paying off.
But this team needs to get the fans something to get excited about besides pre season we may surprise some people analysis to jump start ticket sales.
So far it looks as though it aint just the 'stache Fishers second homefield by the fan attendance.
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