I just saw something on Pro Football Talk about Drew Brees expecting Sean Payton to be back with the Saints again in 2017 after new rumors of him being traded away. This time the rumors are of Payton being traded to the Rams.
In all honesty, of all the names I've heard that could possibly be available (technically not available) his name is the most intriguing to me. We have a defense that could do well with Todd Wash in place while Sean Payton can focus on making our offense better.
The question is, what do you give up to get him? In the past its been 2 first round picks. Are you willing to do that for a coach of his caliber?
If the Rams do that, they are screwed for years to come. They are an awful team with an awful quarterback, awful depth, just bad talent, and losing those picks is going to make them even worse. Us on the other hand....
Vince Lombardi and Don Shula are not worth two first round draft picks.
I would tend to disagree. Say for the Bucs, they got a Super Bowl out of Gruden. I would give up two first round picks for that any day.
Id give up our whole draft for the man with the hoodie
i'd rather have a Jalen Ramsey caliber player on my team than have a head coach with perennially bad defenses.
Saints already said they wouldn't want much compensation for him
Guy hasn't been able to win with Drew Freakin Brees in forever, no way am I giving up picks!
Quote:Guy hasn't been able to win with Drew Freakin Brees in forever, no way am I giving up picks!
Have you seen the defenses theyve been fielding?
I have, year after year, why hasn't he fixed it?
Quote:I have, year after year, why hasn't he fixed it?
Indeed a very valid question.
Quote:I have, year after year, why hasn't he fixed it?
He cant just snap his fingers and its fixed. Fixing an entire side of the ball while balancing contracts on the offense is pretty difficult and requires teams to hit on a lot draft picks and make precise FA moves which arent all his responsibilities since he isnt the GM.
Quote:He cant just snap his fingers and its fixed. Fixing an entire side of the ball while balancing contracts on the offense is pretty difficult and requires teams to hit on a lot draft picks and make precise FA moves which arent all his responsibilities since he isnt the GM.
Snapping his fingers would imply this has been a short-term issue, and that's not the case. Payton isn't the magic bullet that's going to turn this team around. Giving up draft picks to land him would be a waste. Especially since there are better options.
Snapping his fingers, lol, I didn't know that was on his job description. Fixing "an entire side of the ball" kinda is.
Quote:Snapping his fingers, lol, I didn't know that was on his job description. Fixing "an entire side of the ball" kinda is.
"hitting on a lot of draft picks"
"Precise FA signings"
I didnt know those were his job description either but if we wanna skip that part thats fine too
Quote:"hitting on a lot of draft picks"
"Precise FA signings"
I didnt know those were his job description either but if we wanna skip that part thats fine too
You're right. But he's not without fault for how bad the defense was year after year.
That being said, our defense is fine and he'd turn around our offense week 1
Quote:You're right. But he's not without fault for how bad the defense was year after year.
That being said, our defense is fine and he'd turn around our offense week 1
Hes definitely not without fault, any problem on a team is inherently a head coaches fault. But id rather not assume he brings nothing to the table as a coach because his mostly talentless mostly rob ryan coached defenses havent been good. His offenses are still incredibly effective and well schemed.
Never been a proponent of trading draft picks for coaches. It's players not plays, and competent head coaches can be found that don't require draft pick compensation. Just because we found an incompetent one the last go round doesn't mean we should give up valuable draft picks for a decent HC currently under contract with another team
Quote:Never been a proponent of trading draft picks for coaches. It's players not plays, and competent head coaches can be found that don't require draft pick compensation. Just because we found an incompetent one the last go round doesn't mean we should give up valuable draft picks for a decent HC currently under contract with another team
I think the last 16 weeks proved this to be, at minimum, a little less true.