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Quote:When the retirement time for Steve Spurrier comes and even before then, it's easy to envision Spurrier spending many hours, days, and weeks on many of the Myrtle Beach Golf Courses.  
 

So he's basically gonna keep his work schedule once he retires then?
Quote:So he's basically gonna keep his work schedule once he retires then?
 

steve spurrier is a legend. a bonafide BA. dont you dare sully his name with your pedantic insults! (i love steve spurrier)
Quote:True, I wonder how much of his failure as a Redskins Head Coach was due to the horrible owner Daniel Snyder (as many great coaches didnt look good on that team such as Joe Gibbs (HOF), Mike Shanahan (SBC), and Marty Schottenheimer (underrated winner).  I think the fact that the players can always go straight to the owner and bypass the coach has an influnece among other things that owner has done.
True, Snyder has been the kiss of death for that franchise, but Spurrier had free reign to do pretty much whatever he wanted. He got rid of Stephen Davis and brought in a bunch of ex Gators like Danny Wuerffel, Shane Matthews that didn't amount to anything. That was all his fault.
Quote:True, I wonder how much of his failure as a Redskins Head Coach was due to the horrible owner Daniel Snyder (as many great coaches didnt look good on that team such as Joe Gibbs (HOF), Mike Shanahan (SBC), and Marty Schottenheimer (underrated winner).  I think the fact that the players can always go straight to the owner and bypass the coach has an influnece among other things that owner has done.
IIRC, Spurrier thought he could bring in a lot of ex-Gators to anchor his team. Add discovering a lack of NFL ability in his "recruits" to his lack of desire to put in the hours necessary to  build, prepare, and lead an NFL caliber team and you'll find that Snyder gave Spurrier enough rope to hang himself.

Basically, I guess I'm agreeing with Jagsfreak27.

Spurrier's NFL problem was the same as Saban's.

 

They rely on being able to recruit the best talent, and that what wins them ballgames.

 

At the NFL level where the playing field is relatively equal, the men behind the curtains were exposed.  So back to their comfort zones they wisely retreated.  Back to what they're best at... the college system, which they have mastered both on and off the field.

Saban took a team that went 4-12 the previous year to a 9-7 record in his first year.  The next year his QB was placed on injured reserve early in the season and after going 1-6 early, rebounded to a 6-10 record.

 

By comparison, so far Gus Bradley has lost his QB to injury in one season and after a slow start rebounded to a 4-12 record. He'll need 11 wins next year to tie Saban in total wins.  Will Bradley be able to take a 4-12 team to a 9-7 record the next year?  I sure hope so.  But If he doesn't get there, will you be talking about Bradley's "problem" as a coach? 

Oh dear, we've officially stirred up the homers...

 

You can compare apples to oranges, that's fine.  Just don't expect anyone with a lick of sense to follow you down that rabbit hole.

Quote:Saban took a team that went 4-12 the previous year to a 9-7 record in his first year.  The next year his QB was placed on injured reserve early in the season and after going 1-6 early, rebounded to a 6-10 record.

 

By comparison, so far Gus Bradley has lost his QB to injury in one season and after a slow start rebounded to a 4-12 record. He'll need 11 wins next year to tie Saban in total wins.  Will Bradley be able to take a 4-12 team to a 9-7 record the next year?  I sure hope so.  But If he doesn't get there, will you be talking about Bradley's "problem" as a coach? 
 

Only if he beats feet back to the JV level to be the King fish in a smaller pond.
Quote:steve spurrier is a legend. a bonafide BA. dont you dare sully his name with your pedantic insults! (i love steve spurrier)
 

Did I detect a flung visor during your rant there Coach Spurrier?
Quote:Did I detect a flung visor during your rant there Coach Spurrier?
Sarcasm detector broke huh?
Quote:Sarcasm detector broke huh?
 

I don't think he was serious, but with Gater homers you never can tell.
Spurrier is strictly a college coach.

Quote:Oh dear, we've officially stirred up the homers...

 

You can compare apples to oranges, that's fine.  Just don't expect anyone with a lick of sense to follow you down that rabbit hole.
 

Compelling counter-argument.
Quote:I don't think he was serious, but with Gater homers you never can tell.
Says the Nole fan who didn't get it.
Quote:Age wise they may be 7 years apart but it seems like they are 20 years apart.  Spurrier barely put in a 40 hour work week with the Redskins at age 60. 
 

In addition, Pete Carroll has more energy than a large % of people half of his age. 
Quote:So he's basically gonna keep his work schedule once he retires then?
 

Yes.  :thumbsup:

 

Seriously speaking,  on the College level,  that work schedule is effective for Steve Spurrier.   Though Spurrier hasn't had the ultra success that Barry Switzer had with Oklahoma,  Spurrier reminds me of that type of coach.  Much better suited for college football than the NFL.  There's nothing wrong with that,  providing NFL owners are aware of the pitfalls associated with hiring this type of coach.  
Quote:Says the Nole fan who didn't get it.
 

Oooooo I feel so burned...
Quote:Compelling counter-argument.
 

There is no argument (on your end, at least...)

 

Saban was no NFL coach and admittedly returned to his college comfort zone, where he's actually had success winning championships.

 

Looking at your post history says all that needed to be said.  You're a blind 'bama homer who was offended by the truth about Saban.

 

He and Spurrier are the same guy.  And Gus' career path is nothing like what theirs was whatsoever.

 

So, if you can't see that you're comparing apples and oranges, then you don't know your produce, either.  Baby steps, I suppose.
I was pulling hard for Spurrier to have success. I loved the way he made fun of the NFL myth - that you have to work 25 hours a day, sleep in the office, ignore your family and watch more tape, more tape, more tape. However, he never got the players to make it work, and a fair mount of that was on him. It's a shame, as I get so tired of the image many NFL types like to project - that they work so much harder than the rest of us. I guess to justify those salaries.

Quote:I was pulling hard for Spurrier to have success. I loved the way he made fun of the NFL myth - that you have to work 25 hours a day, sleep in the office, ignore your family and watch more tape, more tape, more tape. However, he never got the players to make it work, and a fair mount of that was on him. It's a shame, as I get so tired of the image many NFL types like to project - that they work so much harder than the rest of us. I guess to justify those salaries.
 

You shouldn't make fun of a myth lest it drown you in it's insignificance.
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