Quote:There is still a code of conduct to be upheld. While I have not seen the paperwork it takes to buy a team, there HAS to be something in there about this sort of thing. If a player was charged with multiple felonies for possession of a controlled substance and almost $30K in a duffle bag, Roger wouldn't wait to enact some sort of punishment. Of course Goodell is playing favorites here. He is just as obvious with this as he has been since day 1. Irsay, at the very least, should pay a hefty fine and be suspended for a portion of the season. Probably the best thing for him would be to step back and get his life in order.
Calm down, punishment is coming.
I think it's been shown that Goodell is empowered to act in pretty much any manner he sees fit. Look what he did to an owner's team in New Orleans.
I think he's trying to figure out what the appropriate punishment should be. There's no real template for this.
Quote:Calm down, punishment is coming.
I think it's been shown that Goodell is empowered to act in pretty much any manner he sees fit. Look what he did to an owner's team in New Orleans.
I think he's trying to figure out what the appropriate punishment should be. There's no real template for this.
When did you become the moral compass of this message board? You seem to very judgy.
Goodell has no problem issuing fines and punishments on players that have not had their cases resolved, why is this situation any different?
Edit: The whole he's an owner and not a player thing is bogus. Management/owners in most corporations are held to a higher standard than most employees.
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When did you become the moral compass of this message board? You seem to very judgy.
Goodell has no problem issuing fines and punishments on players that have not had their cases resolved, why is this situation any different?
Edit: The whole he's an owner and not a player thing is bogus. Management/owners in most corporations are held to a higher standard than most employees.
Why are you acting so childish concerning Goodell and Irsay?
You're the one that seems to want to be "judgy". Shot him at dawn!
Is there a time frame that you have in mind that Goodell missed? Perhaps you need to let him know he's not meeting your expectations.
So, you're Commissioner for a day - what's the sentence?
Irsay is supposed to be the leader of a franchise in the NFL. Whether in writing or not like the CBA for the players should not matter. He should be held to a much higher standard than the 21-30 year old guys that play.
Quote:Irsay is supposed to be the leader of a franchise in the NFL. Whether in writing or not like the CBA for the players should not matter. He should be held to a much higher standard than the 21-30 year old guys that play.
Who is arguing otherwise? I mean, really, is anyone saying he shouldn't receive some sort of sanctions?
I think the question is - what do you do? What is proper punishment for an owner under these circumstances.
It's not like Goodell can go to page 114 of the Commissioner's Manual.
So, what do you do?
Quote:Why are you acting so childish concerning Goodell and Irsay?
You're the one that seems to want to be "judgy". Shot him at dawn!
Is there a time frame that you have in mind that Goodell missed? Perhaps you need to let him know he's not meeting your expectations.
So, you're Commissioner for a day - what's the sentence?
There we go again with the judging. I'm being childish because I think Goodell should take a stance against Irsay? I'm not judging Irsay, he judged himself when he was arrested in that car. You just come off as very pompous. If you are ok with that, then do your thing.
He suspended Roethlisberger, and he was never found guilty. The proof that Irsay did something (and admitting himself to rehab) shows he was guilty.
Max fine of 500k. He can not attend games or be apart of team activities for 4-8 games.
I have always believed punishment is coming. I am just saying, were this a player with the same charges, we wouldn't still be waiting for it.
Quote:Who is arguing otherwise? I mean, really, is anyone saying he shouldn't receive some sort of sanctions?
I think the question is - what do you do? What is proper punishment for an owner under these circumstances.
It's not like Goodell can go to page 114 of the Commissioner's Manual.
So, what do you do?
One of the big issues to me is the length of time between it happening and when some sort of action is taken. No clue what the punishment should be, but it should not take this long. It's pushing two and a half months. The league hit Mathis in what, a week, less then that ?
They should have delivered something rather quickly to a figure with such influence in the league.
quick edit: Regarding the Mathis situation (again), he took fertility drugs. Irsay endangered the lives of hundreds if not more yet Mathis has already been given a punishment.
Quote:I have always believed punishment is coming. I am just saying, were this a player with the same charges, we wouldn't still be waiting for it.
Exactly.
I'm not sure what jurisdiction any league should have over any owner, unless his behavior is detrimental to the league. And no, I don't consider an owner being a loose lipped moron or someone with a substance abuse problem a detriment to the league as a whole. With all the rules in place regarding moving franchises, etc, it would be very difficult for a single owner to be a detriment to the league.
It's much ado about nothing if an owner is a detriment to himself, IMO.
Quote:I'm not sure what jurisdiction any league should have over any owner, unless his behavior is detrimental to the league. And no, I don't consider an owner being a loose lipped moron or someone with a substance abuse problem a detriment to the league as a whole. With all the rules in place regarding moving franchises, etc, it would be very difficult for a single owner to be a detriment to the league.
It's much ado about nothing if an owner is a detriment to himself, IMO.
An owner of an NFL team drinking and driving isn't a detriment to the league???
Quote:An owner of an NFL team drinking and driving isn't a detriment to the league???
No, it's not.
It's a detriment to him, and his reputation.
It has absolutely nothing to do with the league.
Quote:No, it's not.
It's a detriment to him, and his reputation.
It has absolutely nothing to do with the league.
His reputation is directly tied to the league's reputation.
If he hit and killed someone, you don't think this is going to negatively affect the league's reputation?
Quote:No, it's not.
It's a detriment to him, and his reputation.
It has absolutely nothing to do with the league.
You couldn't be more wrong. Drunk driving is only a detriment to him? You serious here?
Quote:One of the big issues to me is the length of time between it happening and when some sort of action is taken. No clue what the punishment should be, but it should not take this long. It's pushing two and a half months. The league hit Mathis in what, a week, less then that ?
They should have delivered something rather quickly to a figure with such influence in the league.
quick edit: Regarding the Mathis situation (again), he took fertility drugs. Irsay endangered the lives of hundreds if not more yet Mathis has already been given a punishment.
Goodell was probably waiting to find out what Irsay was being charged with. You, apparently, would have applied penalties without knowing the legal charges. That makes little sense.
Goodell has waited to find out what someone is being charged with before. Other times he didn't see the need. Now that Irsay is not being charged with a felony (and I'm waiting for someone to accuse Goodell of controlling the legal system in Indiana) I assume Goodell will soon come up with some form of punishment.
I still don't see a reason to be perturbed with the amount of time this has taken. Are you upset with the amount of time he's taken regarding Ray Rice?
The Mathis case has nothing to do with the Irsay case. Apples and oranges.
The NBA is removing a team from an owner because of his ignorant views, here we have an owner committing felonies. What should the response be?
Quote:His reputation is directly tied to the league's reputation.
LOL... Al Davis was a spokesperson of the league?
He was certainly a character and developed his own reputation, but his reputation was certainly not that of the league.
Careful, you might get seriously injured falling off that high horse.
Quote:If he hit and killed someone, you don't think this is going to negatively affect the league's reputation?
Why would it? The NFL didn't do it... HE did it.
He, not the league, is responsible for his actions.
Let's not be drama queens here, or the NFL will become as ridiculous as the NBA in their handling of ownership "issues."
Quote:LOL... Al Davis was a spokesperson of the league?
He was certainly a character and developed his own reputation, but his reputation was certainly not that of the league.
Careful, you might get seriously injured falling off that high horse.
He represents approximately 3% of the league at large. For the people of Indianapolis he is absolutely the face of the NFL.