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Jim Brown is certainly no fan of the way the NCAA is currently being run and I have a hard time disagreeing with what he says on this.
I'll admit I haven't always agreed with Jim Brown and his opinions (I disagreed on Trent Richardson and now I'm looking like a fool) but this one I think Jim is on the right track. The NCAA needs re-worked and in a big way. One way or the other, Jim is not afraid to offer his opinion on something.
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Jim Brown is certainly no fan of the way the NCAA is currently being run and I have a hard time disagreeing with what he says on this.
I'll admit I haven't always agreed with Jim Brown and his opinions (I disagreed on Trent Richardson and now I'm looking like a fool) but this one I think Jim is on the right track. The NCAA needs re-worked and in a big way. One way or the other, Jim is not afraid to offer his opinion on something.
There's a lot of talk about simply concluding college football is completely out of control. The Sandusky Scandal was the last straw.
The NFL really needs to foster a developmental league to openly compete with the NCAA. Developmental leagues would be set up regionally and progress at the minor league level would lead to draft status.
You do wonder where the money goes. The NCAA is listed as the largest non-profit organization in America with $850 to $875 million dollars in "non-profits" each year. It is also clear the NCAA's entire purpose is to prevent any leakages of "non-profits".
Unless I am mistaken, it's up to universities to financially support all of their athletic endeavors. This means they use college football revenue to support various other sports on campus and appears to be the number one reason colleges balk at paying football players.
I am certain that the bulk of college football rosters are loaded up with players that have no business being on a college campus. They are there for one simple reason...it's the only path to the pros they can currently take and really only a small number of them will ever play in the NFL.
We're on the road to nowhere. Life is cheap and a college education doesn't mean much. The glut of doctors matches the glut of lawyers. When the doctors saw off the wrong leg, the lawyers will have at least one left to stand on.
Minor League Football is the wave of the future.
I would be in support of some developmental "semi-pro" league.
Quote:I would be in support of some developmental "semi-pro" league.
It will be professional football at a minor league level.
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We're on the road to nowhere. Life is cheap and a college education doesn't mean much. The glut of doctors matches the glut of lawyers. When the doctors saw off the wrong leg, the lawyers will have at least one left to stand on.
For once, I agree with your post. In the past, I have sided with not paying college football players, but now I am taking a different stance. In Div 1 schools, student athletes as a whole (football and basketball) have made
WAY more money for their respective schools in four years than the financial benefits and perks (free books, tuition, board and room), and future life-time income generated from their degree (even with technical fields such as engineer and IT).
Something has to be done about this, imo.
I'm a broke college student.. So fun
Quote:It will be professional football at a minor league level.
A minor/developmental but professional league will not work, nor can it ever compete against college football, period.
Take a look at the NBA. They have a D-league, but no one care about it. It is for those who weren't talented enough to make it in the big league, but are still talented to make a little bit of money -- and that is VERY little compare to the NBA -- playing basketball. With the exception of Rafer Alston and Jeremy Lin, I don't think there has been a D-League player who actually make it to the NBA and have a solid career. D-League is just fodder.
College football is on another stratesphere because it has such a rich history and culture. It is the second -- or maybe a very close third -- most popular and revenue rich "league" a.k.a. the NCAA. A developmental/minor league football would be like an ant competing against the elephant that is the NCAA. It would never work.
The sad thing about all of this is that, Chris Davis made millions of dollar for Auburn, Alabama and the NCAA with that field goal return. However, if he were to suffer a career ending injury at the end of that play, Auburn and the NCAA will want nothing to do with him once he finishes school.
The Iron Bowl made its money by being a match up of two top 4 teams at the end of the season with the SEC West title on the line, not because of the improbable return TD by a cornerback.
Just do your research on much money the respective schools and the NCAA made per regular season game. The field goal return was just an example I made to show that the student athletes made college football what is it, but they don't get pay for it. The moment he gets a career ending injury, the school and NCAA want nothing to do with him once he leave school.
Oh, the NCAA and the colleges have raked in billions over the years on the backs of free labor. The schools make money. The coaches make money. The NCAA makes money. The product? Free labor.
It's been mentioned here, and it's something that probably needs to be considered. Some sort of NFL developmental league or program would make a lot of sense to snip the wings a bit for the NCAA.
It won't work. The best and most efficient way to enter the NFL is through college (Div 1 schools). Prospects know that. That's why all the top talents will go that route, even if they don't like to be in class.
Like I've said, a D-league would be like the NBA, just fodder and a waste of time and money. I mean why would any prospect with quality talent whose dream is to play in the NFL choose a D-league over Div 1 football?
As far as preparing for the NFL games, college does a good job at that. Its just that adjusting to life outside of the NFL can be a problem for some players.
Quote:There's a lot of talk about simply concluding college football is completely out of control. The Sandusky Scandal was the last straw.
The NFL really needs to foster a developmental league to openly compete with the NCAA. Developmental leagues would be set up regionally and progress at the minor league level would lead to draft status.
You do wonder where the money goes. The NCAA is listed as the largest non-profit organization in America with $850 to $875 million dollars in "non-profits" each year. It is also clear the NCAA's entire purpose is to prevent any leakages of "non-profits".
Unless I am mistaken, it's up to universities to financially support all of their athletic endeavors. This means they use college football revenue to support various other sports on campus and appears to be the number one reason colleges balk at paying football players.
I am certain that the bulk of college football rosters are loaded up with players that have no business being on a college campus. They are there for one simple reason...it's the only path to the pros they can currently take and really only a small number of them will ever play in the NFL.
We're on the road to nowhere. Life is cheap and a college education doesn't mean much. The glut of doctors matches the glut of lawyers. When the doctors saw off the wrong leg, the lawyers will have at least one left to stand on.
Minor League Football is the wave of the future.
My god, someone please kill me now, I agree with almost all of this.
Quote:A minor/developmental but professional league will not work, nor can it ever compete against college football, period.
Take a look at the NBA. They have a D-league, but no one care about it. It is for those who weren't talented enough to make it in the big league, but are still talented to make a little bit of money -- and that is VERY little compare to the NBA -- playing basketball. With the exception of Rafer Alston and Jeremy Lin, I don't think there has been a D-League player who actually make it to the NBA and have a solid career. D-League is just fodder.
College football is on another stratesphere because it has such a rich history and culture. It is the second -- or maybe a very close third -- most popular and revenue rich "league" a.k.a. the NCAA. A developmental/minor league football would be like an ant competing against the elephant that is the NCAA. It would never work.
The sad thing about all of this is that, Chris Davis made millions of dollar for Auburn, Alabama and the NCAA with that field goal return. However, if he were to suffer a career ending injury at the end of that play, Auburn and the NCAA will want nothing to do with him once he finishes school.
What college football? The NCAA will be devoid of talent. By causing colleges to play with inferior talent they will be forced to return to educating America's young adults.
NCAA football feeds the monster university system - broken down, comical system where you learn to cut and paste and text test answers to and fro. TU sportwriters for example.
Once enough people realize that colleges are essentially dinosaur bones left over from of a post-modern society, the cost of education goes way down.
Quote:Just do your research on much money the respective schools and the NCAA made per regular season game. The field goal return was just an example I made to show that the student athletes made college football what is it, but they don't get pay for it. The moment he gets a career ending injury, the school and NCAA want nothing to do with him once he leave school.
I've already read up on it long before this. I never said that I disagreed with you(because I don't), just that your example is incredibly faulty since by the time that the play happened, the checks had long been written. He didn't make them the money from the game with that play, the seasons and the circumstances for both teams did. That's all I was saying.
The NFL doesn't have to set up a D-league. Anybody with money can set up a pro league that only 18-21 year old men can play in. Even if it was just regional, and only recruited from/played in one part of the country to start off.. The guys who choose to play in that league would still get looks from the NFL when they turned 22, they just might already have a savings account by that time.
Quote:The NFL doesn't have to set up a D-league. Anybody with money can set up a pro league that only 18-21 year old men can play in. Even if it was just regional, and only recruited from/played in one part of the country to start off.. The guys who choose to play in that league would still get looks from the NFL when they turned 22, they just might already have a savings account by that time.
Having the backing of the NFL would give any league a higher level of legitimacy. There are already semi pro leagues all over the country. They're not feeding talent to the NFL.
Quote:What college football? The NCAA will be devoid of talent. By causing colleges to play with inferior talent they will be forced to return to educating America's young adults.
No 4-5 star prospect would ever choose to play in some D-League over Div 1 football where they can actually learn the game and potentially be a household name. Period. D-league are basically for the "rejects" who didn't have what it takes to make it in the big league.
I wouldn't be so sure of that depending on who is sponsoring that D league. There are plenty of 4-5 star prospects who might consider that path because staying eligible for college just isn't an option. This may have an impact on the overall quality of the NCAA programs, although it wouldn't divert ALL of the talent. The more powerful programs would simply grow in influence, and the power conferences would benefit while the lesser divisions would suffer.
I think a well thought out developmental league with the proper backing would certainly challenge the NCAA. It won't topple it, but it could give them a run for their money.
Quote:Having the backing of the NFL would give any league a higher level of legitimacy. There are already semi pro leagues all over the country. They're not feeding talent to the NFL.
There you go. Now what kind of 4-5 star recruits would ever go to those league and earn a couple hundreds dollar every two weeks when they can learn the game and play for renown college coaches, while getting an expense free education?
A D-league for those who went undrafted after college because they needed more seasoning could make sense. However, a D-leage for the 18-21 year old prospects? You might as well go watch high school football or Div III, because that's the quality you will get.
Football isn't like other sports i.e. soccer and football. Typical 18-19 year old aren't physically and mentally developed enough for the game without proper coaching. They simply cannot play professional level at 18-19.