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Like the title says, I got bored and decided to look up some "rumors" or "inside information" concerning the 2013 NFL Draft as it pertains to the Jags.


http://walterfootball.com/draft2013rumorsteams.php



Jacksonville Jaguars:

April 26: "Mort on ESPN "don't rule out'' Jags take a QB on 2nd Rd. I think we can rule it out. No QB before 3rd round for Jags." - Vito Stellino, Jacksonville.com


April 26: "I'm hearing @Jaguars leaning toward taking Johnthan Banks w/ 1st pick in 2nd round, not a QB." - Gil Brandt


April 26: "Jax picks first today, and expect the Jags to field offers for that pick. If it's not a deal down, or a QB, Cyprien could be in play too." - Albert Breer


April 25: Scott Bischoff of NewEraScouting.com says that the Jaguars will take Ezekiel Ansah at No. 2.


April 24: "The more I've thought about it, the more trouble I have getting on board with a tackle at No. 2. They can fill a hole at right tackle easily in later rounds and don't need two left tackles." - Paul Kuharsky, ESPN AFC South Blogger


April 23: "Feeling is OTs Luke Joeckel and Eric Fisher will be first two players picked Thursday night." - Adam Schefter


April 21: "I've had Dion Jordan going to JAX for a long time. However, I've talked to several GM's/Personnel Directors that expect JAX to take an OT." - Daniel Jeremiah, NFL Network


April 19: It's unclear if Brian Baldinger had inside information while saying this, but he stated on 97.5 the Fanatic that Dion Jordan to Jacksonville is a lock.


April 15: Peter King wrote that the Jaguars could look for a "special pass-rusher" with the second-overall pick, with Dion Jordan being the obvious choice. "[Gus Bradley] can find plugger interior defensive linemen and corners down the line, the way he's done in his last couple of coaching stops."


April 4: "Geno Smith will be a top-five draft pick. There isn't any doubt about it. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised at all to see him go in the top three. Specifically, to Jacksonville second overall." - Jason La Canfora


March 28: Daniel Jeremiah tweeted that he's heard a connection between Ryan Nassib and the Jaguars.


March 26: "I'm always skeptical of draft rumblings during this time of year but I've heard several league sources mention JAX-Geno." - Daniel Jeremiah


March 25: "The Jaguars are interested [in Geno Smith], preliminarily at No. 2." - Peter King


March 22: Adam Schefter said that the first landing spot to watch for concerning Geno Smith is No. 3 overall. He doesn't believe the Jaguars are genuinely interested in Smith despite their perceived interest.


March 20: The Jaguars were "more impressed than they were prepared to be" when working out Geno Smith. - SI.com's Don Banks


March 18: Referencing the March 14 item by Pro Football Talk, head coach Gus Bradley, general manager David Caldwell and the others I mentioned all met with Geno Smith and then spent about 90 minutes breaking down video. Team president Mark Lamping was also there. - Jaguars.com


March 14: "The Jaguars are meeting with Geno Smith as we speak. They have a lot of interest." - Todd McShay


March 14: Pro Football Talk reports that the Jaguars are sending the entire contingent to West Virginia's Pro Day on Thursday. This includes general manager David Caldwell, head coach Gus Bradley, offensive coordinator Jedd Fisch and senior vice president Tony Khan. Caldwell gushed about Blaine Gabbert earlier, but that could have been a smokescreen. The Smith visit could be smoke as well, but it's more logical that Jacksonville would be more interested in Smith than its new general manager would be in favor of sticking with the player who got his predecessor fired.


Feb. 4: "Matt Scott, a favorite of the Jaguars recently hired quarterbacks coach Frank Scelfo. The two are familiar with each other from their days in Arizona and word was they spent a significant amount of time together prior to Scott's appearance at the Shrine Game." - Tony Pauline


Jan. 27: Gus Bradley told the NFL Network crew that learned from Pete Carroll to build team on speed.

Money:

Quote:April 23: "Feeling is OTs Luke Joeckel and Eric Fisher will be first two players picked Thursday night." - Adam Schefter 

Even though it took him 2 days prior to the draft to get it right.

And at the end of the day every thing you read isnt true 

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Even though it took him 2 days prior to the draft to get it right.

I heard one person say, "Only believe stuff you hear a few days before the draft" and dont believe nothing you hear in the weeks leading up to the draft 

Draft rumor fail:

Quote:April 4: "Geno Smith will be a top-five draft pick. There isn't any doubt about it. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised at all to see him go in the top three. Specifically, to Jacksonville second overall." - Jason La Canfora 

Everything Geno related can be applied to this year's version, TB. Its like déjàvu.

Quote:Everything Geno related can be applied to this year's version, TB. Its like déjàvu.

 

Except Teddy has twice the football mind, played in a pro offense, and his play didn't take a nose dive for the final half of his season.

Quote:I heard one person say, "Only believe stuff you hear a few days before the draft" and dont believe nothing you hear in the weeks leading up to the draft

You may be right:

Quote:April 21: "I've had Dion Jordan going to JAX for a long time. However, I've talked to several GM's/Personnel Directors that expect JAX to take an OT." - Daniel Jeremiah, NFL Network

Quote:Everything Geno related can be applied to this year's version, TB. Its like déjàvu.

How? Nobody saw Geno fall coming, people have been saying for over a month Teddy will fall to the late 1st early 2nd

 

Plus Phil Savage and Bill Polion said on ESPN insiders that Teddy Bridgewater stock didnt really fall, they said he was always seen as a late 1st early 2nd by GMs, only the mock drafters had him going in the top 5.

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Even though it took him 2 days prior to the draft to get it right.

 

Schefter nailed the Cam Newton pick the night before the draft, too.

Quote:How? Nobody saw Geno fall coming, people have been saying for over a month Teddy will fall to the late 1st early 2nd

 

Plus Phil Savage and Bill Polion said on ESPN insiders that Teddy Bridgewater stock didnt really fall, they said he was always seen as a late 1st early 2nd by GMs, only the mock drafters had him going in the top 5.

 

That's a crock.  It had started already.  Nobody expected him to fall all the way to day 2, but it certainly had started prior.  Like now, there were only a handful of clingers on to the impossible dream.  Few, if any, had us taking Geno the final days leading up to the draft.  In fact, people were already groaning about how it would be whichever OT was left on the board at 2.

Quote:That's a crock.  It had started already.  Nobody expected him to fall all the way to day 2, but it certainly had started prior.  Like now, there were only a handful of clingers on to the impossible dream.  Few, if any, had us taking Geno the final days leading up to the draft.  In fact, people were already groaning about how it would be whichever OT was left on the board at 2.

Umm i'm not talking about just the Jaguars, if people were saying Geno is going in the top 5 days before the draft and he didnt, how is it the same when people stop saying Teddy is going in the top 5 a month before the draft? 

 

So if Teddy goes in the 2nd its not even close to the same thing when it has been said for over a month 

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If you read closely down the list, most of the guys getting it right are those who have actually spoken with GMs and personnel guys.  They guys whiffing badly are those expressing their personal opinion, and aren't basing that off any discussions they had with anyone with the club.  You learn who to tune in/tune out and read what is said carefully... taking note of what information they are forming their opinion with and where they got that information from, and of course always take it all with a grain of salt.

 

One thing we do know about this regime is that they are very transparent.

 

They said they'd take the available OT, and they did exactly that when no one believed them.  (We don't need an LT!  Too high to take a RT!  We have Monroe! Monroe will be retained!, etc, etc...)  In the end, they did exactly what they said they would.

I came across a video of Mark Sanchez's draft the other day. I believe it was Mike Mayock who said he was going to be a great pick up for NY. We have to remember that an analysis is only assuming how things will go.

So come May 6-7th we should really pay attention to Adam Schefter and Daniel Jeremiah.

I hope what's his name doesn't tweet every pick five minutes before they are called to the stage like he normally does. Ruins the draft.

Quote:I came across a video of Mark Sanchez's draft the other day. I believe it was Mike Mayock who said he was going to be a great pick up for NY. We have to remember that an analysis is only assuming how things will go.

 

He really wasn't bad earlier in his career, and played quite well in the postseason.

 

Unfortunately he didn't develop (or wasn't) developed.  When the team collapsed around him he in turn imploded as well.  Who knows what could have been if he landed in a better situation.  Things don't look any better for Geno, who's now going to be behind Vick.

Quote:He really wasn't bad earlier in his career, and played quite well in the postseason.

 

Unfortunately he didn't develop (or wasn't) developed.  When the team collapsed around him he in turn imploded as well.  Who knows what could have been if he landed in a better situation.  Things don't look any better for Geno, who's now going to be behind Vick.

 

Geno was the 2nd rated PFF QB in the last 4 games of the season. He was also one of the best deep passers in the NFL throughout the whole year without any weapons whatsoever. 

Quote:How? Nobody saw Geno fall coming, people have been saying for over a month Teddy will fall to the late 1st early 2nd

 

Plus Phil Savage and Bill Polion said on ESPN insiders that Teddy Bridgewater stock didnt really fall, they said he was always seen as a late 1st early 2nd by GMs, only the mock drafters had him going in the top 5.

 

     

Just because Teddy is dropping doesn't mean he'll be a terrible NFL QB.