Quote:I think we went after Mack because he was the best at his position.
And was sort of available. It felt like a YOLO type move in which the team had nothing to lose.
As for Brewster, I haven't seen much from him but maybe moving back to center is what he needs. He definitely needs to keep bulking up.
Quote:And was sort of available. It felt like a YOLO type move in which the team had nothing to lose.
As for Brewster, I haven't seen much from him but maybe moving back to center is what he needs. He definitely needs to keep bulking up.
It's definitely a make or break year for a couple of young offensive linemen, Brewster and Rackley. With 11 draft picks, and some UDFAs, there are bound to be several new interior linemen. And GMs usually like to keep rookies and see if they can develop. When you are going into your third year, time has run out. IMO, the odds are against Brewster even making the team. Players usually make the jump between their first and second year. A miraculous transformation between year two and three is not the norm.
Quote:Truth hurts, eh princess?
You quoted yourself because nobody responded. This is typical for someone who desperately craves attention, and we all know that's what you're here for. You've developed a schtick to get the maximum attention possible. Everyone sees this.
This is ridiculous. You are a
MODERATOR, and you seem to be the one who throws the first punch. I don't always agree with TMD, but this time he did have a valid point. Just because he posts on this message board doesn't mean you have to always throw jabs at him. That is not something a
MODERATOR should do. You are trying to entice him to get banned again. It is completely childish, and to be quite honest you are violating the code of conduct by trolling and derailing threads. You always talk about his "schtick", but from what I see you have one as well that you are always trying to push.
It would be great if he could step up to the plate and perform but talk is cheap. I dont think anyone doubts either a draft pick or FA Center wont occur regardless to give him competition in preseason at the position. I like confidence though.
Quote:It would be great if he could step up to the plate and perform but talk is cheap. I dont think anyone doubts either a draft pick or FA Center wont occur regardless to give him competition in preseason at the position. I like confidence though.
It doesn't sound like he's just talking based on the fact that he's bulked up and worked on getting stronger this off season.
The team is going to have competition at the position, but for now, it's his job to lose.
I hope he becomes a pro bowl center, if he could be a decent Center this O-Line could be one of the better ones in the NFL.
Quote:I hope he becomes a pro bowl center, if he could be a decent Center this O-Line could be one of the better ones in the NFL.
My hope is that we find a good center for this team to move forward with. Otherwise, we're putting any rookie QB we draft in immediate peril once he takes the field. If Brewster can step up and fill that role, great. If not, hopefully they'll find someone who can.
Quote:This is ridiculous. You are a MODERATOR, and you seem to be the one who throws the first punch. I don't always agree with TMD, but this time he did have a valid point. Just because he posts on this message board doesn't mean you have to always throw jabs at him. That is not something a MODERATOR should do. You are trying to entice him to get banned again. It is completely childish, and to be quite honest you are violating the code of conduct by trolling and derailing threads. You always talk about his "schtick", but from what I see you have one as well that you are always trying to push.
I've said this same thing to him and Pirkster as they both do it to the point of TMD not even posting in a thread and one of the 2 still bringing him up for pointless bashing. At least TMD tries to stay on topic and if the "mods" know he likes attention why do they so dedperately run to give it to him?
That said i dont have alot of faith in Brewster to take over the center position and i think we will see a 4th rounder natural center take the spot during camps and preseason. Its just setup perfectly for us to use one of the 4th round picks on a C and this draft has a few good ones in that range.
Hey, you never know. Look at Joeckel. Maybe all it takes is going back to your natural position.
Centers are widely available through the draft. We have 5 4th +5th round picks. My guess is one of the guys we like a lot slips to us. Taking a center earlier would be quite foolish. There are always centers who are projected to be starters in the NFL who become UDFA every year. This year, we'll get our pick of the best.
I don't think Brewster will start 16 games for us this year, he's too small.
Quote:Brewster gets overpowered by under tackles. But he thinks he can hold up against NTs. Thats beyond funny.
His natural position is center. Movement, leverage, technique is actually totally different from guard to center. I watched a lot of Brewster at ohio state. I do think he could use to be a little stronger, and the injuries probably hindered that a little bit. He said he added 10lbs of straight muscle mass this year and the season is still a few months away. I have high hopes and think he can handle the job and handle it well. He has all the motivation in the world right now.
I hope Brewster is a much better Center than he was a Guard
It would be nice to see Brewster earn the starting spot. It would make things a whole lot easier for Caldwell if he already had his starting center on the roster.
Quote:Brewster gets overpowered by under tackles. But he thinks he can hold up against NTs. Thats beyond funny.
"Holding up" a NT is really all you do to block them in most cases.
If a guard is uncovered in our ZBS scheme, then depending on the playside, they'll be doubling to drive the NT and one of the two will work upfield onto a LB.
Otherwise, you aren't driving a NT. You're simply cutting him off from the gap. Most Cs are outweighed and out-muscled. That doesn't mean the NT always wins.
NTs aren't typically bull rushing, swim moving, etc. to get to the backfield or disrupt the pocket like undertackles, so NTs aren't subjecting the C to the same rag doll treatment undertackles would Gs. NTs are there acting like wrecking balls eating up space. Get inside their hands and on their body, and you've accomplished half the mission (you've got the leverage,) then just keep them from moving laterally to the ball carrier.
Brewster better pick it up. His play last year was butt gas.
Quote:It doesn't sound like he's just talking based on the fact that he's bulked up and worked on getting stronger this off season.
The team is going to have competition at the position, but for now, it's his job to lose.
If I had a nickle for every time a player said the following I'd be rich.
"I think the extra 10 pounds I gained this offseason will definitely make me stronger."
or
"I think the 10 pounds I lost this offseason will definitely make me quicker."
or,
"The reason I had a bad year was because the prior offseason I put on or took off 10 pounds, and I shouldn't have done that. This year, I will be back to my natural playing weight."
If I've heard it once, I've heard it a hundred times.
This certainly doesn't sound like urgency to fill C in the draft to me.
<p style="margin-left:40px;">"If we found one that we really liked that we felt like could come in and be an appreciable upgrade then we’d go that route, but if not we felt like between the draft and between Brew and even a guy like Pat Lewis, who we have some feeling for that we claimed off Cleveland’s practice squad, that one of those guys could come in and be the starter for us."
http://espn.go.com/blog/jacksonville-jag...-at-center
They took their shot at Mack, and now moving on down the line (no pun intended.) It's still possible they could bring in a remaining vet after the draft, so I don't expect them to feel like they
must find one in the draft. I don't think they'll force a pick if it isn't there, or otherwise overdraft one because they think he'll be gone before their next pick.
<p style="margin-left:40px;">"I think that he’s in the mindset that he has the opportunity right in front of him and he’s really going to take advantage of this opportunity," Bradley said. "We’ll see. He looks the part, coming off of his injury very well, but it’s going to be competitive. We have confidence in him to play that position. We’ve talked in our offensive staff meetings and our overall staff meetings specifically about that one position, and his name keeps coming up."
One theme that seems to repeat itself in all the pressers with this regime, is that they always have a plan, and they seem pretty confident in it regardless of the variables in the equation. You get the feeling (or, at least I do) that yes, they've thought this through and have explored all the alternatives. They have a cool and comfort with the work they're putting in.
Quote:This certainly doesn't sound like urgency to fill C in the draft to me.
<p style="margin-left:40px;">"If we found one that we really liked that we felt like could come in and be an appreciable upgrade then we’d go that route, but if not we felt like between the draft and between Brew and even a guy like Pat Lewis, who we have some feeling for that we claimed off Cleveland’s practice squad, that one of those guys could come in and be the starter for us."
http://espn.go.com/blog/jacksonville-jag...-at-center
They took their shot at Mack, and now moving on down the line (no pun intended.) It's still possible they could bring in a remaining vet after the draft, so I don't expect them to feel like they must find one in the draft. I don't think they'll force a pick if it isn't there, or otherwise overdraft one because they think he'll be gone before their next pick.
<p style="margin-left:40px;">"I think that he’s in the mindset that he has the opportunity right in front of him and he’s really going to take advantage of this opportunity," Bradley said. "We’ll see. He looks the part, coming off of his injury very well, but it’s going to be competitive. We have confidence in him to play that position. We’ve talked in our offensive staff meetings and our overall staff meetings specifically about that one position, and his name keeps coming up."
One theme that seems to repeat itself in all the pressers with this regime, is that they always have a plan, and they seem pretty confident in it regardless of the variables in the equation. You get the feeling (or, at least I do) that yes, they've thought this through and have explored all the alternatives. They have a cool and comfort with the work they're putting in.
The center from USC has said he is attending the draft (he was one of the 30 players invited). That tells me he thinks he will be drafted at least by the end of the second round.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/201...the-draft/
A lot of people say you can get a good center in the 4th round, but if centers are going to start coming off the board at the end of the first round, how many will be drafted before our 4th round pick? (That's a rhetorical question.)
Quote:The center from USC has said he is attending the draft (he was one of the 30 players invited). That tells me he thinks he will be drafted at least by the end of the second round.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/201...the-draft/
A lot of people say you can get a good center in the 4th round, but if centers are going to start coming off the board at the end of the first round, how many will be drafted before our 4th round pick? (That's a rhetorical question.)
It's my sentiment that If we don't make a move for Martin or choose to sit still in the remote chance he falls (my gut tells me he will probably come off at the bottom half of the first), then I see no reason to go after an interior lineman until the fourth.
I see Martin as the only "must have" out of the top C and G candidates. Otherwise, I'm completely comfortable waiting until the fourth and instead draft impact players in rounds one through three. There are a lot of Pro Bowl and HOF interior linemen that were drafted fourth or later because they just aren't drafted high. The ones that are, are instant stars like Martin is expected to be.