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Quote:I would think Babin is 1st DE cut....

 

I agree with you.  I think Babin is more likely to get cut than Alualu.

Quote:Jag Vet- Been a member of the team atleast 2 years.

 

I know it's early but not much more to talk about.  My predictions

 

Alualu- Yes he did player better last year but was still pretty horrible. I can't remember 2 meaningful plays he made all year.

 

Rackley-  It's from injury or lack of talent but he is bad. 

I dont know if Alualu is D. Harvey 2.0, or a decent Dlineman that got over hyped & over paid and if he renegotiated his contract down would add good depth as a backup.

Quote:Wouldn't be a good idea to cut him, he could be traded tho. 

For a conditional 7th round pick, but who knows they got a 7th for Gabbert.

Quote:    Branch maybe cut If does not step up. I think Ryan Davis make it difficult for him to get on the field this year. I do think Prosinski is gone for sure especially with

Joe Legefield-Young & Sherrod Martin on the roster. Martin is a hidden gem that played for Carolina and has starting experience. Young also did the same for Indi. Caldwell did his homework on them both. Either one has the chance to start at FS. That would leave Prosinski fighting for a roster spot and I don't think he will make the cut. Rackley might not want to answer his door at training camp either. But to be honest the Draft will paint a perfect picture on the positions to watch for cuts.

 

 

Branch had five sacks in the second half of the season. It sounds like he's turned a corner.


 

I'm not so sure about Pros being cut short of training camp because he's not a big money player, that is, unless offseason roster space becomes an issue. Uche's release sent a message that anybody can be cut, but short of allowing them to compete for a spot I'd only expect pricey vets to be cut, but there aren't many players left whose release would free up at least $2 mil. I'll list the players with their savings and resulting dead money if released...


 

Marcedes - $5.45 mil savings with $2.8 dead money in the books (trade appear possible)


Posluzney - $5.5 mil savings with $4 mil dead money (Poz of course is safe, and his dead money figure would probably be too high anyways)


<strong>Roy Miller - $2.65 mil savings with $250,000 dead money
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Babin - $2.6 mil savings with $500,000 dead money


Scobee - $2.313 mil savings with $1.875 mil dead money (of course Scobee is safe, although the Titans cut Bironas)


 

As for Rackley, his release would save $1.43 mil with $155,000 dead money.


As for Alualu, his release would save $1.18 mil with $3.09 mil dead money. (this is a lot of dead money to carry)


As for Prosinski, his release would save $735,000 with $105,000 dead money.
(cutting OT Sam Young or S Sherrod Martin would save more)


Branch appears safe as his release would save a hair over $300,000, which isn't much when you consider there are a ton of guys whose entire $570,000 or $645,000 salary would be saved if released. Branch's release would also leave $1.07 mil in the books as dead money.

I actually don't think any Veteran will be cut. Maybe one of the DE's if they bring in a couple in the draft.

I can see Lewis being traded at some point, especially if we draft a TE in the 4th or 5th that we like that shows some promise early in the year.

 

Trade him for a 5th or something.  He will probably look to get a couple of more picks even for next year

I would hope someone would come out of camp an outcompete Prosinski. That guy is a liability.

Quote:Branch had five sacks in the second half of the season. It sounds like he's turned a corner.


I'm not so sure about Pros being cut short of training camp because he's not a big money player, that is, unless offseason roster space becomes an issue. Uche's release sent a message that anybody can be cut, but short of allowing them to compete for a spot I'd only expect pricey vets to be cut, but there aren't many players left whose release would free up at least $2 mil. I'll list the players with their savings and resulting dead money if released...


Marcedes - $5.45 mil savings with $2.8 dead money in the books (trade appear possible)

Posluzney - $5.5 mil savings with $4 mil dead money (Poz of course is safe, and his dead money figure would probably be too high anyways)

<strong>Roy Miller - $2.65 mil savings with $250,000 dead money
</strong>
Babin - $2.6 mil savings with $500,000 dead money

Scobee - $2.313 mil savings with $1.875 mil dead money (of course Scobee is safe, although the Titans cut Bironas)


As for Rackley, his release would save $1.43 mil with $155,000 dead money.

As for Alualu, his release would save $1.18 mil with $3.09 mil dead money. (this is a lot of dead money to carry)

As for Prosinski, his release would save $735,000 with $105,000 dead money.
(cutting OT Sam Young or S Sherrod Martin would save more)

Branch appears safe as his release would save a hair over $300,000, which isn't much when you consider there are a ton of guys whose entire $570,000 or $645,000 salary would be saved if released. Branch's release would also leave $1.07 mil in the books as dead money.

If Sherrod Martin is healthy, he's the best Safety on the team IMO. Winston Guy and Josh Evans are probably better than Pros as well and D. McCray, D. Watson and B. Ewing are strong special teamers.I also think with all the day 3 picks we'll pick up some additional ST guys. I really don't see how Prosinski makes the team.

Quote:If Sherrod Martin is healthy, he's the best Safety on the team IMO.

 

WUT?

who?

Quote:WUT?

I guess I'm remembering his better years with the Panthers. IIRC, he was waived injured in a similar situation to Dwight Lowery. If he can regain his old form I think he starts over Josh Evans at FS. Cyprien is probably better, so "best Safety on the team " was an overstatement.

Quote:I guess I'm remembering his better years with the Panthers. IIRC, he was waived injured in a similar situation to Dwight Lowery. If he can regain his old form I think he starts over Josh Evans at FS. Cyprien is probably better, so "best Safety on the team " was an overstatement.

To be perfectly honest you just reminded me Sherrod Martin was even on the team.

Sexton and Lageman.

Exactly how can anyone truly judge Rackley???   He started as a rookie...  got hurt in pre-season his 2nd year and was also hurt last year and went on IR..  He won a team award for courage and gutting it out last year while he could...

 

I seemed to remember a couple of plays that got highlighted when he whiffed and that's what people probably remember and think he's bad...  

 

O'Halloran must have had a problem with him since he always disses him in the paper...  Probably where many are getting their opinions...  

 

Let's see how it shakes out...

Quote:Exactly how can anyone truly judge Rackley??? He started as a rookie... got hurt in pre-season his 2nd year and was also hurt last year and went on IR.. He won a team award for courage and gutting it out last year while he could...


I seemed to remember a couple of plays that got highlighted when he whiffed and that's what people probably remember and think he's bad...


O'Halloran must have had a problem with him since he always disses him in the paper... Probably where many are getting their opinions...


Let's see how it shakes out...

He will have a chance to compete for the starting guard spot

Quote:I would hope someone would come out of camp an outcompete Prosinski. That guy is a liability.

I think prosinski is one of the core special teamers on the roster along with Demetrius McCray and laroy Reynolds


The difference being the other 2 have shown they may have something to offer as rotational or starting players


Special teams was a big area of improvement last year and I think for that reason he will play out his contract by which time a low round pick/ FA will have shown more on field talent and so he won't be resigned


The most obvious cut is Babin if we draft a pass rusher

branch and Davis have youth on there side and Clemons can be the veteran presence

if we added Clowney mack (even though I woulf prefer him to play linebacker) or Kareem Martin to the rotation I would be happy without Babin

Any series he is in the secondary, it seems opposing teams go attack him and they usually have success.

Quote:That really depends on who they land in the draft, and what kind of progress he makes this off season.  Nothing is definite. 

 

I'd like to see him make this roster and contribute when he's on the field.  Hopefully the progress he's made makes him a vital part of the rotation.  If it does, then more than likely you see Babin released.

Branch started to develop nicely last year. The chances of them cutting a guy who has started to show promise and is only entering his 3rd season are pretty slim. At worst, he would get traded because a young DE coming off a 6 sack season has value. He would have to have some health problems or get into trouble to get cut.

 

If anyone at the LEO gets cut it will be Babin or Clemons. Much older and more expensive will go first.

Quote:Exactly how can anyone truly judge Rackley???   He started as a rookie...  got hurt in pre-season his 2nd year and was also hurt last year and went on IR..  He won a team award for courage and gutting it out last year while he could...

 

I seemed to remember a couple of plays that got highlighted when he whiffed and that's what people probably remember and think he's bad...  

 

O'Halloran must have had a problem with him since he always disses him in the paper...  Probably where many are getting their opinions...  

 

Let's see how it shakes out...

Probably because when he was playing his PFF numbers were the worst in the league.

Quote:Exactly how can anyone truly judge Rackley???   He started as a rookie...  got hurt in pre-season his 2nd year and was also hurt last year and went on IR..  He won a team award for courage and gutting it out last year while he could...

 

I seemed to remember a couple of plays that got highlighted when he whiffed and that's what people probably remember and think he's bad...  

 

O'Halloran must have had a problem with him since he always disses him in the paper...  Probably where many are getting their opinions...  

 

Let's see how it shakes out...

I judge him based on the number of times he was beaten in pass protection during his 11 starts last year.  It was ugly.  I'm not optimistic that he'll be much better this year. Here's hoping anyway....