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1. Houston Texans-  Edge player <span style="font-family:arial, sans-serif;">Jadeveon Clowney

South Carolina (Once in a generation prospect, you can get fired for passing a guy like this, he'll be a Texan and will terrorize QB's in the AFC South for the next 10-12 years)</span>

 

2. St. Louis Rams- Edge player <span style="font-family:arial, sans-serif;">Khalil Mack

Buffalo (Arguably the best player in the draft, Mack adds incredible athleticism, technique, and versatility to an already talented defense, I think the Rams will wait on their tackle)</span>

 

3. Jacksonville Jaguars- WR <span style="font-family:arial, sans-serif;">Sammy Watkins

Clemson (A mixture of Percy Harvin and Justin Blackmon, the Jaguars have never had a talent like Watkins, he can score from anywhere on the field, Jedd Fisch's creativity mixed with Jerry Sullivan’s coaching will pay dividends for Watkins)</span>

 

4. Cleveland Browns- OT <span style="font-family:arial, sans-serif;">Greg Robinson

Auburn (The Browns should take the BAP here, which is Robinson, one of the more athletic physical specimens coming out of college in the last 10 years, the Browns will plant Robinson opposite of Joe Thomas giving them bookend tackles for the next 8-10 years)</span>

 

5. Oakland Raiders- WR <span style="font-family:arial, sans-serif;">Mike Evans

Texas A&M (The Raiders signed James Jones in FA, but he's a number 2-3 at best, Mike Evans gives them a true a number one, he's a mixture of Brandon Marshall and Vincent Jackson) </span>

 

6. Atlanta Falcons- OT <span style="font-family:arial, sans-serif;">Jake Matthews

Texas A&M (Value + need= no brainer)</span>

 

7. Tampa Bay Buccaneers- OT Taylor Lewan Michigan (see Jake Matthews)



 

8. Minnesota Vikings- DT <span style="font-family:arial, sans-serif;">Aaron Donald

Pittsburgh (head coach Mike Zimmer gets a Minnesota version of "Geno Atkins" in Aaron Donald, a freak athlete that brings interior pressure, Donald is a guy that will make everyone around him better, similar to Atkins.)</span>

 

9. Buffalo Bills- TE <span style="font-family:arial, sans-serif;">Eric Ebron

NC (EJ Manuel needs weapons, with the two top receivers off the board Ebron makes a ton of sense here, he's a matchup nightmare for linebackers and safeties)</span>

 

10. Detroit Lions- CB <span style="font-family:arial, sans-serif;">Darqueze Dennard

Michigan State (The Lions finally add a legit talent to their annually bad secondary)</span>

 

11. Tennessee Titans- QB <span style="font-family:arial, sans-serif;">Blake Bortles

UCF (I don't think Whiz believes in Jake Locker, Bortles has rumored to be the top rated QB on most teams boards, the Whiz era in TN begins with a new QB)</span>

 

12. New York Giants- WR <span style="font-family:arial, sans-serif;">Odell Beckham

JR LSU (Victor Cruz like quickness with the long speed of Desean Jackson, Beckham Jr. adds explosiveness to an underwhelming receiving core)</span>

 

13. St, Louis Rams- OT <span style="font-family:arial, sans-serif;">Zach Martin

Norte Dame (Martin is a smart versatile offensive lineman, his versatility makes him a top 15 pick)</span>

 

14. Chicago Bears- S <span style="font-family:arial, sans-serif;">Hashean Clinton

Dix Alabama (a playmaking rangy athletic safety, those are in the demand in the NFC North)</span>

 

15. Pittsburgh Steelers- Edge Player Anthony Barr UCLA (a pure upside pick fits a need as well, the only legit pass rusher the Steelers have on their roster is Jason Worilds, Jarvis Jones was incredibly underwhelming and was benched at times last year, Barr unlike Jones is the quick twitch athlete the Steelers are looking for)



 

16. Dallas Cowboys- QB <span style="font-family:arial, sans-serif;">Johnny Manziel

Texas A&M (two words, Jerrah Jones)</span>

 

17. Baltimore Ravens- OT <span style="font-family:arial, sans-serif;">Morgan Moses

Virginia (the singing of Eugene Monroe solidifies the left side of their offensive line, they lost the underwhelming Michael Oher to the Titans in FA, Morgan is an immediate upgrade)</span>

 

18. New York Jets- CB <span style="font-family:arial, sans-serif;">Justin Gilbert

Oklahoma State (Dee Milliner came on strong last year, however after losing Antonio Cromartie and striking out on multiple corners in FA, Gilbert is just too talented and fills a glaring need)</span>

 

19. Miami Dolphins- DT <span style="font-family:arial, sans-serif;">Timmy Jernigan

Florida State (The Dolphins need to get younger on the interior of their defensive line)</span>

 

20. Arizona Cardinals- QB <span style="font-family:arial, sans-serif;">Teddy Bridgewater

Louisville (Once thought to be the sure fire #1 pick, it now looks like Bridgewater will fall into to latter part of the first round, lucky for Arizona. Bruce Arians employs a friendly QB system in Arizona, he'll get the most out of Bridgewater’s talents, Carson Palmer isn't getting any younger)</span>

 

21. Green Bay Packers- S <span style="font-family:arial, sans-serif;">Deone Bucannon

Washington State (One of the most underrated players in the draft, DB </span>

has a chance to be an all pro player at the next level, he's rangy, instinctive (15 career ints), and is the hardest hitting safety in this class, the Packers secondary just got a lot better.



 

22. Philadelphia Eagles- WR <span style="font-family:arial, sans-serif;">Brandin Cooks

Oregon State (the Eagles get their Desean Jackson replacement in cooks, Brandin Cooks is absolutely electric, without the attitude and off the field issues of a Desean Jackson)</span>

 

23. Kansas City Chiefs- TE <span style="font-family:arial, sans-serif;">Jace Amaro

Texas Tech (The Chiefs could take a receiver or defensive lineman here, instead I gave them Amaro, a chains mover that does damage over the middle of the field, he's a safety blanked for the weak armed Alex Smith)</span>

 

24. Cincinnati Bengals- OLB <span style="font-family:arial, sans-serif;">Ryan Shazier

Ohio State (Arguably the most athletic player in this draft, RS ran a 4.36 40 on a bad hammy, he's a 240 LB specimen that happens to be an outstanding playmaker, both in coverage and as a pass rusher, this makes too much sense for the Bengals)</span>

 

25. San Diego Chargers- CB <span style="font-family:arial, sans-serif;">Kyle Fuller

Virginia (The Chargers had one of the worst CB tandems in football last year, Fuller is a complete corner that has a chance to be one of the best in the NFL in 2-3 years)</span>

 

26. Cleveland Browns- QB <span style="font-family:arial, sans-serif;">Derek Carr

Fresno State (The Browns reportedly "love" Derek Carr, if that's accurate he'll be their pick at 26, a strong armed smart QB, Carr has a chance to be very good at the next level, if he's able to overcome his erratic play in the pocket once things break down)</span>

 

27. New Orleans Saints- WR <span style="font-family:arial, sans-serif;">Cody Latimer

Indiana (I watch a lot of big 10 football, and can tell you Latimer is one of the best players in the country, he's a big receiver that combines smooth route running with insane athletic ability, it just so happens that the Saints need a receiver with Marques Colston and Kenny Stills as the projected starters, Latimer will be a beast in the NFL)</span>

 

28. Carolina Panthers- OT <span style="font-family:arial, sans-serif;">Cyrus Kouandjio

Alabama (What's worse than the Carolina Panthers receiving core? Their offensive line, CK was inconsistent at times this year and has medical concerns, but he's simply too talented to pass up)</span>

 

29. New England Patriots- Edge player <span style="font-family:arial, sans-serif;">Dee Ford

Auburn (Chandler Jones is their only pass rusher, Dee Ford gives them an athletic presence off the edge)</span>

 

30. San Francisco 49ers- CB <span style="font-family:arial, sans-serif;">Bradley Roby

Ohio State (one of the few weaknesses of this team, they could also go receiver here, but this class is incredibly deep at WR, Roby had a down year, but flashed #1 CB ability last year, if he can be consistent, he offers shutdown CB ability)</span>

 

31. Denver Broncos- ILB <span style="font-family:arial, sans-serif;">CJ Mosley

Alabama (the rich get richer)</span>

 

32. Seattle Seahawks- WR <span style="font-family:arial, sans-serif;">Marquise Lee

USC (see CJ Mosley)</span>

 

33. Houston Texans- QB <span style="font-family:arial, sans-serif;">Tom Savage

Pittsburgh ( a late riser in this draft, Savage is a strong armed QB with ideal size, but was inconsistent at Pitt, to is credit, his supporting cast particular the offensive line was awful, he's the king of QB Bill O'Brien is looking for)</span>

 

34. Washington Redskins- CB <span style="font-family:arial, sans-serif;">Jason Verrett

TCU (if he were 2 inches taller he'd be a top 15 pick)</span>

 

35. Cleveland Browns- WR <span style="font-family:arial, sans-serif;">Allen Robinson

Penn State (has been compared to Josh Gordon, this is a match made in heaven for Cleveland)</span>

 

36. Oakland Raiders- DL <span style="font-family:arial, sans-serif;">Rashede Hageman

Minnesota (too much upside to pass on at this point in the draft)</span>

 

37. Atlanta Falcons- Edge player <span style="font-family:arial, sans-serif;">Jeremiah Attaochu

Georgia Tech (the Falcons fill one need with an OT in the first round, and get a dynamic pass rushing threat in JA in the second, he plays in their backyard so they should have plenty of information on him)</span>

 

38. Tampa Bay- WR<span style="font-family:arial, sans-serif;"> Donte Moncrief

Ole Miss (Moncrief will be a better in the pros than what he was in college)</span>

 

39. Jacksonville Jaguars- <span style="font-family:arial, sans-serif;">OG Xavier Su'a-Filo

(I'm usually a believer of waiting later in the draft to grab a guard, his athleticism and strength are perfect for the Jaguars ZBS)</span>

 

40. Minnesota Vikings- QB <span style="font-family:arial, sans-serif;">Zach Mettenberger

LSU (Norv Turner gets a QB that can stretch the field vertically, it's a perfect fit for that offense)</span>

 

41. Buffalo Bills- S <span style="font-family:arial, sans-serif;">Calvin Pryor

Louisville (the replace Byrd with another playmaking safety)</span>

 

42. Tennessee Titans- RB <span style="font-family:arial, sans-serif;">Jeremy Hill 

LSU (Dexter McCluster and Shonn Greene are the RB's on this roster, enough said)</span>

Strongly disagree with no QBs in the top 10. I like that you really went your own direction in some other ways. Particularly Manziel to the Cowboys and trying something different with the CB rankings.

 

Good food for thought.

Quote:Strongly disagree with no QBs in the top 10. I like that you really went your own direction in some other ways. Particularly Manziel to the Cowboys and trying something different with the CB rankings.

 

Good food for thought.

 

I understand where you coming from, I think teams will try to follow the Seattle model, take the BAP, build your team, and find a QB that presents value, and try to find a QB that presents value later in the draft. I know we say this every year, but next years QB crop (Mariota, Winston. Hundley, Petty) is elite, that will also be on teams minds.

No waaaaaaaay Pryor falls to the 2nd round. We will not take a guard that high. Garropolo or Mettenberger in the 2nd if they are both there in your draft.

Quote:No waaaaaaaay Pryor falls to the 2nd round. We will not take a guard that high. Garropolo or Mettenberger in the 2nd if they are both there in your draft.

 

Haha you don't know any of that nostradamus.

I kind of agree with this, I think the QBs might slip out of the top 10. I just wish the draft would hurry up...

I don't know how anyone can say there's "no way" that would happen, no one knows, it's just a projection.

Quote:Haha you don't know any of that nostradamus.

For a fact? No, I don't. But I can take a pretty well educated guess that both of those things won't happen.

Quote:For a fact? No, I don't. But I can take a pretty well educated guess that both of those things won't happen.

 

There are so many good players in this draft, it's certainly plausible that safety such as Calvin Pryor will fall to the 2nd round, he's a good player, but he's not an Earl Thomas/Eric Berry like safety that warrants a high 1st round pick. Coincidentally, the guy I have him replacing (Jarius Byrd) was the 42nd pick in the 2009 NFL draft. As far as Xaiver is concenred, the Jaguars have a glaring hole at RG, and he just so happens to be a very good football player that has a chance of going 32nd to the Seahawks, who also have a need at G, if he's still on the board at 39, I have to believe he'll be an option for the Jaguars.

Would rather Van Noy in the 2nd but i would be ok with it

Quote:There are so many good players in this draft, it's certainly plausible that safety such as Calvin Pryor will fall to the 2nd round, he's a good player, but he's not an Earl Thomas/Eric Berry like safety that warrants a high 1st round pick. Coincidentally, the guy I have him replacing (Jarius Byrd) was the 42nd pick in the 2009 NFL draft. As far as Xaiver is concenred, the Jaguars have a glaring hole at RG, and he just so happens to be a very good football player that has a chance of going 32nd to the Seahawks, who also have a need at G, if he's still on the board at 39, I have to believe he'll be an option for the Jaguars.

Pryor is not the type of FS we are looking for. Even if he does fall and is ther

Quote:Pryor is not the type of FS we are looking for. Even if he does fall and is ther

 

I was talking about Xavier.

No way Johnny Air Jordan Manziel drops to 16. Jags drafting him at 3.

Quote:No way Johnny Air Jordan Manziel drops to 16. Jags drafting him at 3.

 

That's certainly possible.

Quote:No way Johnny Air Jordan Manziel drops to 16. Jags drafting him at 3.

 

You like setting yourself up for disappointments, huh?

 

That being said, I don't mind the first pick in the draft, but there are better options for the Jags if your scenario plays out.  That pick smells of strictly a need pick. 

Quote:No waaaaaaaay Pryor falls to the 2nd round. We will not take a guard that high. Garropolo or Mettenberger in the 2nd if they are both there in your draft.

 

I would gladly take Sua'Filo @ 39 and I think he is worth the pick.

Quote:You like setting yourself up for disappointments, huh?

 

That being said, I don't mind the first pick in the draft, but there are better options for the Jags if your scenario plays out.  That pick smells of strictly a need pick. 

 

 It's definitely a need pick, but he might be the BAP at that point in the draft, he's been compared to Mike Iupati, if he's anything like that he presents tremendous value in the 2nd round, as Iupati was a top 20 pick. The beautiful thing is this roster has so many holes the Jaguars can go in a number of different ways and I'll be happy

Quote:I would gladly take Sua'Filo @ 39 and I think he is worth the pick.

 

Taking a Guard in the 1st/2nd round isn't a sexy pick, that's why people scorn at the idea of it. The Jaguars need to win back the line of scrimmage, they've done a good job of doing that on the defensive side of the ball in FA, I think they'll draft an offensive playmaker at 3, and will target offensive lineman in the 2nd/3rd rounds.

I love Sua'filo and I think he's a perfect fit for our rebuilt line at RG.  Unfortunately, he's a first round guy who we're pretty much not in position to draft without moving way back or moving up from the 2nd.  If he's there at 39, I'd run to the podium with the card.