Quote:I hate saying it with nothing to back it but you might be right. I dont know about Deacon's point that VT doesnt develope offensive players as i would need to see some draft history but he might have a point there too.
All im sayin is there should be some noticable progress or change in the way he drops back and scans the field over his college career and ther hasnt been. He looks and throws exactly the same as when he started. That to me means either its bad coaching , refusal of coaching , or lack of mental ability and with 2 of the 3 options leaning against Logan Thomas i cant get on his bandwagon.
VT is an option offense, and no they don't and have never developed quarterbacks. Beamer was a DB, his "bread and butter" has been developing secondary players and special teamers.
Vick was raw and worked in the option offense because he could "make" a broken play with his athleticism. He'd break a play, then "fix" it. That rawness was clear when he entered the NFL.
Bryan Randall wasn't good enough to make it even as a backup in the NFL. Tyrod Taylor is a solid backup, but I doubt he'll be more. Jim Druckenmiller was a first round bust with the 49ers - not smart enough to catch on to the NFL game.
The only Beamer era QB to really "make it" was Will Furrer, who had a nice career as a backup for several teams.
Thomas has abilities none of those guys have outside the incomparable Vick. I believe he can be coached by a team willing to invest the 2, 3 years it will probably take. He took some time between seasons to try and get NFL style training, but unfortunately it just didn't fit with what he was being asked to do at VT, so it probably did as much harm as good as far as his final season went in college. Once able to concentrate and work on an NFL playbook in an NFL environment full time, I believe he's got a good chance to actually grow as a QB.
I am just not impressed with Thomas.
Perhaps he'll be a project that pays off for someone - but I don't see it.
Projecting 4-6 round, no one is expecting miracles. But the measurables alone may hypnotize a coach/GM into going after him in round 3 or maybe even 2.
Logan Thomas is about the opposite of Colin Kaepernick. Only things they have in common are size and a big arm. I bought into the "better athlete than QB" thing because of his size and straight-line-speed but when I went back and really focused on his game I was surprised with what I saw. Outside the Duke game (which was atrocious) he was very accurate from the pocket but absolutely useless when he had to throw on the run. I would not draft him in any offense that incorporates a lot of rollouts/moving pockets or asks the QB to run. Anyways, here's my write-up on him. All JMO of course.
<b>8. Logan Thomas, Virginia Tech</b> 6'6", 250# Round: 4 When I really studied Thomas' game, I was surprised about what I saw. He has a very good arm and is a better passer than he gets credit for within the pocket. Though he is big, strong, and straight-line fast, his accuracy on the move is lacking. He is also not a very good scrambler. Needs to be more consistent setting his feet and getting his balance before throwing, as he delivers nice, accurate strikes when doing so. Thomas rarely makes a poor decisions throwing the ball. He has kind of a long throwing motion and may throw too hard for some receivers. More than a couple of his passes were intercepted after popping out of his receivers' hands. If Thomas is going to be successful in the NFL, it will be strictly as a pocket passer unless he makes huge improvements in his QB mobility skills. Despite the debacle at the Senior Bowl, steps up in the pocket against the rush an delivers the ball downfield. However, he is sacked without feeling the rush more than average. He played his worst game of the year vs. Duke as he fell victim to some robber schemes and was off-target on deeper throws. (vs. North Carolina, Miami, Virginia, Duke, Georgia Tech)
Quote:I am just not impressed with Thomas.
Perhaps he'll be a project that pays off for someone - but I don't see it.
I remember him being hyped as a sophomore as "the next Cam Newton". I never saw it. It struck me more as guys wanting to be the first on the bandwagon to point back as an
I told ya so. I wouldn't take him before the 7th round.
I seriously don't understand what people are seeing with Logan Thomas that I can't see. Every time I see him played, he looked overwhelmed.
Quote:I remember him being hyped as a sophomore as "the next Cam Newton". I never saw it. It struck me more as guys wanting to be the first on the bandwagon to point back as an I told ya so. I wouldn't take him before the 7th round.
Funny, since that's kind of what you just did.