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Great article IMO: http://www.bigcatcountry.com/2014/4/18/5...fl-success

 

 

I found this part be very interesting (It was followed by a chart detailing draft position, strength of schedule (S.O.S), and conference strength):

 

"To begin with I picked out the QBs drafted in the first round from 2004-2008. This sample gives both successful and unsuccessful QBs, and the time allows us to account for progression rather than just a few seasons of play. Only first round QBs were chosen as this indicates similarities in draft stock.

 

I then took a look at the strength-of-schedule for these quarterbacks over their last 2 seasons as a starter to get a representation of the opponents they played. I also found their conference's rank during their final year. This helps give us a reasonable reference for the types of opponents they played in college that we can compare to their NFL success."

 

 

The success of a quarterback in the NFL wasn't directly determined by the competition they faced in college. What I did find very interesting though is that only QBs with Elite physical traits were taken in the top 5 - 10 picks of the draft. Also, one of the QBs listed one had a similar draft profile to that of Teddy Bridgewater and how some view him on this board.

 

 

Here is the draft profile that I feel is very similar to Bridgewater (or how some on this board view him):

 

<p style="font-family:Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:medium;">Positives - One of the most polished passers to come out of the college ranks since Peyton Manning. His ability to read defenses is second to none at the college level. Coaches even gave him the opportunity to call audibles at the line of scrimmage any time he wanted because of his ability to see what was developing. He has excellent timing with his receivers, and can put the ball on the money in any situation. Has excellent touch and can float it in, or sling it into coverage if needed. He is also a good athlete, and shows solid mobility inside the pocket. He can avoid the rush and throw on the run once outside the pocket. He's played in big games every year, and more often than not, he came out on top. He will not make mistakes to cost you the game, and comes through when the game is on the line.

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<p style="font-family:Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:medium;">Negatives - There is nothing physically that stands out about him. He can make any throw needed, but he does not have a cannon. He is mobile, but he's not a standout athlete. There were some times this year where he let his passes sail, and he won't be allowed to do that in the NFL. He has the arm strength to get the ball into coverage, he just needs to do it more often. In the NFL, a lot of the touch passes he throws will not be completed.

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<p style="font-family:Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:medium;">Bottom line - He just wins. He does not wow you with his physical talent and may not lead the league in any statistical category, but he puts you in position to win, and comes out on top. He has a very bright future in the NFL.

 

 

Do you know which QB this draft profile is referring to?

Leinart.
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Yup, google is your friend LOL....

 

http://www.footballsfuture.com/2006/pros...inart.html

 

I personally think TB will have a much better career than Leinart, but I thought it was very interesting how similar their pre draft reports are.

Quote:Yup, google is your friend LOL....

<a class="bbc_url" href='http://www.footballsfuture.com/2006/prospects/matt_leinart.html'>http://www.footballsfuture.com/2006/prospects/matt_leinart.html</a>


I personally think TB will have a much better career than Leinart, but I thought it was very interesting how similar their pre draft reports are.


Haha yeah it was bothering me not knowing who it was so I had to google.


Leinart had no work ethic which hurt him a bunch.
Quote:Haha yeah it was bothering me not knowing who it was so I had to google.

Leinart had no work ethic which hurt him a bunch.
 

Looks like both him and Russell had that problem. Its a problem I don't think TB has. However, as I mentioned only players with elite traits and physical tools were taken high. (i.e. top 10) Carr has the arm and Bortles has the size....

 

I wouldn't be surprised at all if Carr was the 1st QB and only QB taken in the top 10. I am not saying that's the right choice but just based on history only guys with Elite level skills and physical traits are taken that high. And he is the only one with an elite trait IMO in this draft. I wouldn't take him, but I am just saying I wouldn't be surprised.

Pretty sure we've had this exact thread with this exact quote before...

Quote:Pretty sure we've had this exact thread with this exact quote before...
 

The article was just written yesterday. The main part of the thread was just about college competition really has nothing to do with QB success, and I would have thought you TB fanboys would have loved that....

 

And I am not sure if you took it this way, but me pointing out how Bridgewater's pre-draft profile compares to Leinart's is not a knock against him. That's still a 1st round grade pre-draft, and had he (Leinart) worked hard he probably would have lived up to some of those expectations if not all of them. I believe Bridgewater will put in the necessary work, but as always time will tell.

Quote:The article was just written yesterday. The main part of the thread was just about college competition really has nothing to do with QB success, and I would have thought you TB fanboys would have loved that....

 

And I am not sure if you took it this way, but me pointing out how Bridgewater's pre-draft profile compares to Leinart's is not a knock against him. That's still a 1st round grade pre-draft, and had he (Leinart) worked hard he probably would have lived up to some of those expectations. I believe Bridgewater will put in the necessary work.
I don't take it as anything, I just remember someone posting the same Leinart scouting report and asking us to guess who it was. I guess I shouldn't have said quote I meant the scouting report guessing game part.
Quote:I don't take it as anything, I just remember someone posting the same Leinart scouting report and asking us to guess who it was. I guess I shouldn't have said quote I meant the scouting report guessing game part.
 

It was probably me in another thread a few months back before Teddy started to "fall". I still think he is going to go where he should be taken between picks #15 - #20. And ironically enough I think he would have the most success being drafted by the same team that drafted Leinart...the Cardinals.

 

Being compared to Leinart pre-draft isn't a bad thing.....

 

Being compared to Leinart post-draft is....

Didnt need a chart to know that a QBs Confs or school doesnt mean jack when it comes to predicting their future success