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This could impact the blocking schemes the Jaguars utilize.
Zone blocking schemes often utilize cut blocks and lateral movement to open holes and cutback lanes.
With the increased possibility those blocks could be penalized, how much of the rushing offense will have to be scrapped?
How will that affect the kind of player the Jaguars would draft? Will the Jaguars now be more inclined to go for bigger offensive linemen?
This is much ado about nothing according to Boselli. Zone or whatever, the team utilizes both.
Plus, you should always prefer larger lineman no matter the scheme. Bigger is better.
Quote:This is much ado about nothing according to Boselli. Zone or whatever, the team utilizes both.
Plus, you should always prefer larger lineman no matter the scheme. Bigger is better.
As to your first point, do you have a link? Naturally I would defer to Boselli in these matters, but I would think it DOES make a difference. The team ran the ball better when it went to less ZBS and back to power running because last year, the team was still utilizing the personnel for power in the OL. Now, two of those guys are gone and the remaining starter at LFG from last year has already been supplanted by another guy, who more fits the prototype of the zone blocking.
Secondly, that isn't necessarily true. A big guy who doesn't have the mobility to get out in space isn't necessarily better for a team that emphasizes mobility in the OL. Conversely, a power OL like Dallas of the 1990s would not be the place for a small, Randall McDaniel type guard (though McDaniel obviously was a great player).
Obviously if you have two guys with equal mobility and all other attributes being identical, take the bigger guy.
It is still legal to cut a player from the front though right?
Quote:It is still legal to cut a player from the front though right?
Yes.
But many of the plays in zone blocking schemes have offensive linemen stepping to the play side. In response, the defense pursues. Many of those cut blocks in the past are from the side. In order to get to those players to execute those moving lateral blocks, you need nimble footed blockers.
At first, I just kind of passed this off as not that big of a deal, but this could possibly mean a big change in the way the ZBS teams work.
As Bullseye has stated above a lot of the blocks that occur in the scheme come from the side, now the OL can't cut a guy to their playside gap unless they gain position to be in front of their assigned Defender. That's a huge step to take for a player that is trying to block a guy who is playing in the gap towards the play.
zbs will still be very affective without the back side roll up blocks. they are last ditch effort to upon holes for the cut back. if the line is doing its job affectively the back side blockers either pick up the man down the line, wash their man down the line (for the cut back). or work to the second level. it makes a difference but just a small one.
NFL to flag goalpost dunk. Goodell taking the fun out of NFL football.
Quote:This is much ado about nothing according to Boselli. Zone or whatever, the team utilizes both.
Plus, you should always prefer larger lineman no matter the scheme. Bigger is better.
If memory serves, the Broncos teams that won 2 Super Bowls had linemen who were smaller and more versatile. A farcry from the Cowboys mammoth line which also won a couple titles.
Quote:As to your first point, do you have a link? Naturally I would defer to Boselli in these matters, but I would think it DOES make a difference. The team ran the ball better when it went to less ZBS and back to power running because last year, the team was still utilizing the personnel for power in the OL. Now, two of those guys are gone and the remaining starter at LFG from last year has already been supplanted by another guy, who more fits the prototype of the zone blocking.
Secondly, that isn't necessarily true. A big guy who doesn't have the mobility to get out in space isn't necessarily better for a team that emphasizes mobility in the OL. Conversely, a power OL like Dallas of the 1990s would not be the place for a small, Randall McDaniel type guard (though McDaniel obviously was a great player).
Obviously if you have two guys with equal mobility and all other attributes being identical, take the bigger guy.
No, he said it on the radio. It was loud and clear.
they also were kings of the back side cut block to ad some discredit to my previous post. they also utilized undersized line men and exclusively ran zone block. Jacksonville uses slide protection and big on big, so they need more girth. that doesn't mean bigger=better but does mean our guard will be over 290.
Quote:they also were kings of the back side cut block to ad some discredit to my previous post. they also utilized undersized line men and exclusively ran zone block. Jacksonville uses slide protection and big on big, so they need more girth. that doesn't mean bigger=better but does mean our guard will be over 290.
Show me one good guard in the NFL who is under 290. Im honestly curious.
If a guy is too small, Dontari Poe types will push them around like a rag doll.
I was referring to the Elway/Terrell Davis era offensive line. I said because the way we run our scheme that it was not feasible. I don't believe that bigger is always better, not because I don't believe in absolutes (which I don't, they are for siths). I don't believe bigger is better from personal experience (which I would happily explain in great boring detail).
Quote:NFL to flag goalpost dunk. Goodell taking the fun out of NFL football.
They need to make the Lambeau leap a penalty, too. It's absolute crap that the rest of the NFL doesn't get to establish their own specific flavor of celebration but the packers get to keep doing that unsportsmanlike garbage.
Quote:I was referring to the Elway/Terrell Davis era offensive line. I said because the way we run our scheme that it was not feasible. I don't believe that bigger is always better, not because I don't believe in absolutes (which I don't, they are for siths). I don't believe bigger is better from personal experience (which I would happily explain in great boring detail).
Are you absolutely sure you dont believe bigger is better?
Quote:They need to make the Lambeau leap a penalty, too. It's absolute crap that the rest of the NFL doesn't get to establish their own specific flavor of celebration but the packers get to keep doing that unsportsmanlike garbage.
Ya well they don't have to stop the game to fix the Lambeau wall if a player jumps on it
sure, lets be objective. name the best offensive tackle of all time I'll bet there someone bigger
there are to many factors to determine success bigger may be better in one case but not another. I think you should acquire based on over all scheme. don't get me wrong I don't hate em when they are big and ugly. you can't have someone that weighs 340 trying to pull off a scoop block while the next guy is trying to get to the next level.