Since we have debated constantly which QB would be the best fit for our team at the #3 overall pick. I figure we could discuss the best place for these QBs to go and have long term success if they aren't draft by us.
Here is my list:
Teddy Bridgewater - #20 Overall (Arizona Cardinals) I think having a year to learn behind Carson Palmer will be a great thing for him. Teddy has many characteristics that Palmer had when he was coming out. Not to mention that team is pretty stacked with talent on both sides of the ball. If Palmer is unable to get this team to the playoffs this season, then I could see Teddy taking over come 2015 and having great success.
Johnny Manziel - #23 Overall (Kansas City Chiefs) A lot of people of this boards have jokingly (or seriously) said Alex Smith is his ceiling in the NFL. Joking aside though I think Andy Reid is one of the greatest QB guru's the NFL has ever seen. If he helped Michael Vick learn the art form that is NFL quarterback, then I can see no limits to the success he could possibly have with Johnny Football. Johnny might even get Andy that elusive Superbowl ring...
Blake Bortles - #27 Overall (New Orleans Saints) Drew Brees is 35 years old and though he shows no signs of slowing down anytime soon....father time will eventually catch him. I think Blake would end up in the best situation here. First, barring injury to Brees he probably wouldn't even have to worry about starting for at least 2 - 3 seasons while he continues to develop his craft behind one of the best QBs of all time. When that transition does come to put Blake at the forefront it could potentially be as seamless as when Rodgers took over for Farve....minus the retirementgate (hopefully)
Bortles: Texans. Bill Obrian is good at developing QBs and he gets a protoype guy.
Teddy: Jaguars: Good mobility and short to immediate passing game is perfect for Fisch's system
Johnny: Vikings: Use him creatively in the running game along with AP and you get a top team attack in the league.
Quote:Bortles: Texans. Bill Obrian is good at developing QBs and he gets a protoype guy.
Teddy: Jaguars: Good mobility and short to immediate passing game is perfect for Fisch's system
Johnny: Vikings: Use him creatively in the running game along with AP and you get a top team attack in the league.
I have a question. Despite the fact that you ignored not drafting any of the QBs to us......
Which QBs has Bill Obrien actually "developed"?
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That's pretty funny, but I don't think Bill O'Brien ever coached him...
Quote:Teddy: Jaguars: Good mobility and short to immediate passing game is perfect for Fisch's system
I want Teddy obviously, but I'm not sure how true the statement is. I think the system Fisch runs now is because of the QBs he's had to deal with thus far with the Jags. His career up until this point was primarily a highly aggressive 4 verts deep passing game...much like a Norv Turner offense.
Not saying it's necessarily wrong either, though.
Quote:Since we have debated constantly which QB would be the best fit for our team at the #3 overall pick. I figure we could discuss the best place for these QBs to go and have long term success if they aren't draft by us.
Here is my list:
Teddy Bridgewater - #20 Overall (Arizona Cardinals) I think having a year to learn behind Carson Palmer will be a great thing for him. Teddy has many characteristics that Palmer had when he was coming out. Not to mention that team is pretty stacked with talent on both sides of the ball. If Palmer is unable to get this team to the playoffs this season, then I could see Teddy taking over come 2015 and having great success.
Johnny Manziel - #23 Overall (Kansas City Chiefs) A lot of people of this boards have jokingly (or seriously) said Alex Smith is his ceiling in the NFL. Joking aside though I think Andy Reid is one of the greatest QB guru's the NFL has ever seen. If he helped Michael Vick learn the art form that is NFL quarterback, then I can see no limits to the success he could possibly have with Johnny Football. Johnny might even get Andy that elusive Superbowl ring...
Blake Bortles - #27 Overall (New Orleans Saints) Drew Brees is 35 years old and though he shows no signs of slowing down anytime soon....father time will eventually catch him. I think Blake would end up in the best situation here. First, barring injury to Brees he probably wouldn't even have to worry about starting for at least 2 - 3 seasons while he continues to develop his craft behind one of the best QBs of all time. When that transition does come to put Blake at the forefront it could potentially be as seamless as when Rodgers took over for Farve....minus the retirementgate (hopefully)
I think Bortles and Bridgewater could benefit long term by being drafted by Houston.
Despite their poor record last year, the team is loaded. Houston's OL is good enough and young enough to protect any QB for years. Their receivers are top notch, too.
Minnesota seems like a good long term spot for a young QB. They play indoors and have a good young LT in Kalil and a good young WR in Patterson. Short term, they can run the ball well with AP and take pressure off of him.
Buffalo would be better for Bortles than Bridgewater, but that wouldn't be a viable place because they just drafted EJ Manuel.
Dallas would be a good spot for any of the above QBs. They have a stud WR in Dez Bryant, a good young LT, could sit behind Romo, if needed, and has a coach that has played QB in Garrett.
I agree that Arizona would be a good spot for any of the QBs, with their WRs, and Arians, especially since they finally addressed LT with Veldheer.
If they ever had some stability in the organization, a guy like Bortles might thrive in Cleveland. Good LT, good talent along the OL, especially at LT and C, and a strong defense to support him.
New Orleans would be another favorable spot for any of the young QB prospects. Sean Payton is an outstanding teacher of QBs. Any of these prospects could learn behind Drew Brees and play in a dome/good weather within the division most of the year.
That's what I see right off hand.
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Dallas would be a good spot for any of the above QBs. They have a stud WR in Dez Bryant, a good young LT, could sit behind Romo, if needed, and has a coach that has played QB in Garrett.
Dallas crossed my mind, but I didn't go there because I think being drafted by Dallas in the 1st round as a QB is like being drafted #1 overall. There is a lot of pressure to perform at a high level right away there, and I don't think fans would allow a first round pick to sit for a year (and maybe not Jerry Jones as well)
Playing for the Cowboys is like playing for the Yankees as far as fan fare IMO.
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NVM.....you are right
But that's still only a QB.....not QBs
Bridgewater-any team that already has a lot of pieces in place or are almost there: Texans, Vikings, and hopefully Jaguars
Think Andrew Luck to the Colts in 2012. Teddy could be the perfect 'last piece to the puzzle' for one team, making them a playoff team the very next year.
Manziel-any team that desperately needs a spark to completely rejuvinate/revolutionize the offense, energize its weary fanbase, ticket-sales, national-recognition, etc: Browns, Raiders, and hopefully Jaguars
Think RG3 to Washington, or Newton to Carolina. I can honestly see whoever picks up Johnny being either THE or one of the most watched/popular teams in the entire NFL next year.
Bottles-hell, i don't even know what to do with Bottles. Didn't even have this guy on my draft-board 3-months ago. I would say he would have to be chosen as a back-up for at least a year or two, to learn under an older QB: maybe Steelers behind Roth, or somebody like the Saints like you said? I dunno. There's at least 4 other QBs(besides Teddy and Johnny) that I'd pick ahead of him in the later rounds.
Bridgewater - Already sinking as I predicted he would. Send him somewhere juicy like oh...Miami. He'll be out of the league in a couple of years.
Bortles - Let's send him to Dallas as a back-up for Romo. The Jaguars missed FSU Pro Day for Gino Torretta 2.0? He will quickly become the guy people question why did we blow a pick on him?
Manziel - ESPN College Football commentator. He was looking extremely shop-worn at Texas A&M. There's no month off to get better in the pros.
I can totally agree with Teddy going to the cards. They're building up their O line as well to help him out even more, so of all the prospective teams he'd probably have the best bet there.
Quote:I want Teddy obviously, but I'm not sure how true the statement is. I think the system Fisch runs now is because of the QBs he's had to deal with thus far with the Jags. His career up until this point was primarily a highly aggressive 4 verts deep passing game...much like a Norv Turner offense.
Not saying it's necessarily wrong either, though.
Yeah maybe I was basing it too much on his hamstrung offense from last year. I never watched Miami when he was there so I guess I cant really comment on that.
