I know QB is a big need for this team, but I have always said what we do in FA will show me what we will do in the draft. So I have two reasons why I don't feel we are going QB with our first round pick.
1) Chad Henne signing - I know it wasn't a huge deal but they gave him low end starter money. Henne's deal is only 2 years / $8 million, however, the part to me that is telling is the $4.5 million that is guaranteed for this upcoming season. The reason this is important is reason #2....
2) Blaine Gabbert - You might be thinking, if we draft a guy in round 1, then Gabbert is getting cut. Not so fast. Keep in mind Gabbert's rookie deal was a fully guaranteed contract, and thanks to the previous regime it was a back loaded deal. If we cut Gabbert this year the team will still owe him almost $7.1 million. Also he is getting paid $3.2 million guaranteed this coming season.
With Henne's new deal and Gabberts fully guaranteed contract that is $6.7 million guaranteed to the QB position this year. If we draft a guy at #3 overall, that player will probably get a similar deal to RG3 ($20 - 21 million fully guaranteed) and even it was similar to last year's #3 overall pick (Dion Jordan) that player would still probably get $3.7 million or more paid to them for their first season.
Assuming Henne starts, with Blaine Gabbert and the rookie QB on the beach, there would be over $11 million dedicated to one position, however, close to $7 million of said position would not even playing. I believe this is why we are hearing that the FO is looking for players in the first round who will make an immediate impact on the field, and wont be sitting on the bench....
But again this is just my opinion of the situation.
I agree we may not grab one in the first but I don't like your reasoning. The salary cap is growing fast and we have one of thr best cap situations in the league
AAnd yeah the only reason Gabbert won't be cut because there's a ton of dead money. However, neither QB on our roster has any bearing on our draft strategy. Neither is a starter and neither will get any better.
Gabbert will not effect their draft plans one bit
I don't think gabbert is a factor but with henne getting that deal I think there is zero chance of a qb at 3. Clowney, Mack, Watkins
No QB on the roster right now will affect draft plans. If Dave has a QB graded as franchise quality when he is on the clock at 3 the QB will be taken.
And if there is but he passes on the QB because of Chad friggin Henne then Dave should be fire for complete ineptitude. But I don't worry about that.
I don't disagree with you about the salary cap, still I don't think any team wants millions of dollars siting on the bench especially for multiple players at the same position.
As far as the QBs on our roster having an effect on our draft strategy.....I don't think overall it does, but I do think it could effect our first pick, especially if they were contemplating a QB. If they felt there was a day one starter to be had in this draft I don't think they give up that much guaranteed money to Henne (I mean what has he done to show he is worth any guaranteed money), but we will see.
P.S. - I never said it would affect our draft strategy. I said what we do in FA could reveal what the FO is thinking.
Quote:No QB on the roster right now will affect draft plans. If Dave has a QB graded as franchise quality when he is on the clock at 3 the QB will be taken.
And if there is but he passes on the QB because of Chad friggin Henne then Dave should be fire for complete ineptitude. But I don't worry about that.
Exactly. We have a backup QB and a camp arm on our roster. I hope no GM is that naive.
Quote:I don't disagree with you about the salary cap, still I don't think any team wants millions of dollars siting on the bench especially for multiple players at the same position.
As far as the QBs on our roster having an effect on our draft strategy.....I don't think overall it does, but I do think it could effect our first pick, especially if they were contemplating a QB. If they felt there was a day one starter to be had in this draft I don't think they give up that much guaranteed money to Henne (I mean what has he done to show he is worth any guaranteed money), but we will see.
Why would they care? If Bridgewater or whoever is there at 3 is someone that can come in and start and be a good QB then its a small price to pay.
Quote:I don't disagree with you about the salary cap, still I don't think any team wants millions of dollars siting on the bench especially for multiple players at the same position.
As far as the QBs on our roster having an effect on our draft strategy.....I don't think overall it does, but I do think it could effect our first pick, especially if they were contemplating a QB. If they felt there was a day one starter to be had in this draft I don't think they give up that much guaranteed money to Henne (I mean what has he done to show he is worth any guaranteed money), but we will see.
If there is a position you make an exception for in terms of having money on the bench, its QB
Dave knows Henne and Blaine arent starters, everyone calm down. We might not draft a QB at 3 but Henne is not the reason why. He got a high end backup contract, which is what he is.
Or maybe they don't see a QB worth drafting at 3.
Quote:Or maybe they don't see a QB worth drafting at 3.
This.
That's what I take away from the signing. Either A) they know their QB wont be there, or B ) they don't see a QB worth drafting at 3.
I am leaning towards B
If there wasn't a guy they liked in the draft, I'd think they'd be signing a better Stop-gap guy than Henne the Horrible.
Quote:If there wasn't a guy they liked in the draft, I'd think they'd be signing a better Stop-gap guy than Henne the Horrible.
What FA QB is better is a better option than Henne?
If they didnt resign Henne they were gonna sign a vet QB anyways, they were not gonna go into the year with Gabbert, Scott and a rookie QB
Quote:If there wasn't a guy they liked in the draft, I'd think they'd be signing a better Stop-gap guy than Henne the Horrible.
Henne is just a stop-gap until
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Signing Henne allows the team to have maximum flexibility in the first round. Suppose we did not sign Henne. And we went into the draft with just Blaine Gabbert at the QB position. So we get to our pick, and Bridgewater is on the board. And while they like TB, they don't love him. Do they have to take him since they only have Blaine on the roster? What if someone offers them a boatload of picks to trade down?
And Dave says to Gus, "We have to take the picks and trade down, this trade is too good to pass up, Good luck, Gus. Blaine is now your starting QB."
You see, by signing Henne, we can draft a QB with our first pick, or trade down, or draft someone else. It just gives us flexibility.
Quote:Henne is just a stop-gap until
We're not going to have the first pick in the draft.
I will say this at least our QB contract situations aren't as bad as Houston's. I don't think they are going QB with #1 pick either, which is another reason why I believe teams (esp ours) feel there is no QB worth taking that high this year.
However, this will depend if they cut ties with Schaub. Currently, they have no reason to cut him as they will owe him $10 million plus this year whether they cut him or not.
But if they do cut him, then I am 100% sure it is because they are drafting a QB, which goes back to my option A) - the Jags know their QB wont be there, which is why they gave Henne this contract.
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Quote:I will say this at least our QB contract situations aren't as bad as Houston's. I don't think they are going QB with #1 pick either, which is another reason why I believe teams (esp ours) feel there is no QB worth taking that high this year.
However, this will depend if they cut ties with Schaub. Currently, they have no reason to cut him as they will owe him $10 million plus this year whether they cut him or not.
But if they do cut him, then I am 100% sure it is because they are drafting a QB, which goes back to my option A) - the Jags know their QB wont be there, which is why they gave Henne this contract.
This makes no sense